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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6935373" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>One of the most interesting features of 5E is a powergamer is how easily-mitigated a wizard's key weaknesses are. As you say, low-ish AC is typically one of them; but in 5E, you can just start your first level as a Fighter (with at least Dex 13 or Str 13) with Defense style, then multiclass to wizard at level 2, and now you have Con save proficiency instead of Wis save proficiency and excellent AC. Plus a bit of extra HP, Second Wind, and martial weapon proficiencies to tide you through the early levels.</p><p></p><p>Anotherfruitful channel, as Helldritch mentioned, is to multiclass to Life Cleric at some point. You don't get Con save proficiency or Defense style, but you do get heavy armor and some really neat spells (Bless, Shield of Faith, Sanctuary), and you avoid losing any spell slots. It also gives you the option for eventual neat stuff such as Contingency ("Cure Wounds V whenever I hit zero HP"), which is almost as good as always-on Death Ward and is actually better than the half-orc Relentless Endurance feature. You do have to invest in Wis 13 to make this happen, so you're either more MAD (if you invest in Wis AND Str) or less mobile (if you don't invest in Str but wear heavy armor anyway) but it's still a good option overall.</p><p></p><p>Dragon breath saves can be mitigated by learning the Absorb Elements spell, if EE is a thing at your table. (Without that spell wizards are obviously far more dragon-averse.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6935373, member: 6787650"] One of the most interesting features of 5E is a powergamer is how easily-mitigated a wizard's key weaknesses are. As you say, low-ish AC is typically one of them; but in 5E, you can just start your first level as a Fighter (with at least Dex 13 or Str 13) with Defense style, then multiclass to wizard at level 2, and now you have Con save proficiency instead of Wis save proficiency and excellent AC. Plus a bit of extra HP, Second Wind, and martial weapon proficiencies to tide you through the early levels. Anotherfruitful channel, as Helldritch mentioned, is to multiclass to Life Cleric at some point. You don't get Con save proficiency or Defense style, but you do get heavy armor and some really neat spells (Bless, Shield of Faith, Sanctuary), and you avoid losing any spell slots. It also gives you the option for eventual neat stuff such as Contingency ("Cure Wounds V whenever I hit zero HP"), which is almost as good as always-on Death Ward and is actually better than the half-orc Relentless Endurance feature. You do have to invest in Wis 13 to make this happen, so you're either more MAD (if you invest in Wis AND Str) or less mobile (if you don't invest in Str but wear heavy armor anyway) but it's still a good option overall. Dragon breath saves can be mitigated by learning the Absorb Elements spell, if EE is a thing at your table. (Without that spell wizards are obviously far more dragon-averse.) [/QUOTE]
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