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Shatter as a force effect - spell level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1399987" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Ok, I am a bit confused. Are you looking to make this one or two spells?</p><p>I think one spell, so with that in mind here are my thoughts.</p><p></p><p>First question - Why?</p><p></p><p>Since inanimate objects are not normally damaged by force spells (See <em>magic missile</em>) but Sonic attacks do...</p><p>And since Force spells specifically better effect incorporeal creatures, but sonic might not...</p><p></p><p>Tough call. You are combining two basically opposed concepts on the spell.</p><p></p><p>If the only idea is to cause damage to Crystaline Creatures I dont see the point. Many other spells can cause them damage that are not sonic. Its also a very specific spell to be designed to combat one single type of creature.</p><p></p><p>"<em>Targeted against a crystalline creature (of any weight), shatter deals 1d6 points of sonic damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage.</em>"</p><p></p><p>I would do something along the lines of the following as Force Can be useful against crystaline and incorporeal creatures but is generally ineffective against inanimate objects.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">Force Lance</span></p><p>Evocation [Force]</p><p><strong>Level:</strong> Sor/Wiz 3</p><p><strong>Components:</strong> V, S, M</p><p><strong>Casting Time:</strong> 1 standard action</p><p><strong>Range:</strong> Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)</p><p><strong>Area or Target:</strong> One crystalline or ethereal creature</p><p><strong>Duration:</strong> Instantaneous</p><p><strong>Saving Throw:</strong> Fortitude half</p><p><strong>Spell Resistance:</strong> Yes</p><p><em>Force Lance</em> creates a sharp lance of force designed to deal damage to crystalline and incorporeal creatures. Targeted against such a creature, <em>force lance</em> deals 1d6 points of force damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage.</p><p><strong>Arcane Material Component:</strong> A chip of mica.</p><p></p><p>If you want the force to damage to objects as well, then I would suggest.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">Force Blast</span></p><p>Evocation [Force]</p><p><strong>Level:</strong> Sor/Wiz 4</p><p><strong>Components:</strong> V, S, M</p><p><strong>Casting Time:</strong> 1 standard action</p><p><strong>Range:</strong> Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)</p><p><strong>Area or Target:</strong> 5-ft.-radius spread</p><p><strong>Duration:</strong> Instantaneous</p><p><strong>Saving Throw:</strong> Fortitude half (creature); Will negates (object)</p><p><strong>Spell Resistance:</strong> Yes</p><p><em>Force Blast</em> creates a sharp blast of force in a 5' radius area designed to deal damage to crystalline and incorporeal creatures and to damage objects. Targeted against such a creature, <em>force blast</em> deals 1d6 points of force damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage.</p><p>Targeted nonmagical objects of crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain that are within the 5-foot radius of the point of origin are smashed into dozens of pieces by the spell. Solid objects, regardless of composition, weighing up to 10 pounds per caster level are also effected but receive a Will save to negate the effect.</p><p><strong>Arcane Material Component:</strong> A chip of mica.</p><p></p><p></p><p>JMHO - Hope it helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 1399987, member: 2167"] Ok, I am a bit confused. Are you looking to make this one or two spells? I think one spell, so with that in mind here are my thoughts. First question - Why? Since inanimate objects are not normally damaged by force spells (See [i]magic missile[/i]) but Sonic attacks do... And since Force spells specifically better effect incorporeal creatures, but sonic might not... Tough call. You are combining two basically opposed concepts on the spell. If the only idea is to cause damage to Crystaline Creatures I dont see the point. Many other spells can cause them damage that are not sonic. Its also a very specific spell to be designed to combat one single type of creature. "[i]Targeted against a crystalline creature (of any weight), shatter deals 1d6 points of sonic damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage.[/i]" I would do something along the lines of the following as Force Can be useful against crystaline and incorporeal creatures but is generally ineffective against inanimate objects. [COLOR=DarkOrange]Force Lance[/COLOR] Evocation [Force] [b]Level:[/b] Sor/Wiz 3 [b]Components:[/b] V, S, M [b]Casting Time:[/b] 1 standard action [b]Range:[/b] Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) [b]Area or Target:[/b] One crystalline or ethereal creature [b]Duration:[/b] Instantaneous [b]Saving Throw:[/b] Fortitude half [b]Spell Resistance:[/b] Yes [i]Force Lance[/i] creates a sharp lance of force designed to deal damage to crystalline and incorporeal creatures. Targeted against such a creature, [i]force lance[/i] deals 1d6 points of force damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage. [b]Arcane Material Component:[/b] A chip of mica. If you want the force to damage to objects as well, then I would suggest. [COLOR=DarkOrange]Force Blast[/COLOR] Evocation [Force] [b]Level:[/b] Sor/Wiz 4 [b]Components:[/b] V, S, M [b]Casting Time:[/b] 1 standard action [b]Range:[/b] Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) [b]Area or Target:[/b] 5-ft.-radius spread [b]Duration:[/b] Instantaneous [b]Saving Throw:[/b] Fortitude half (creature); Will negates (object) [b]Spell Resistance:[/b] Yes [i]Force Blast[/i] creates a sharp blast of force in a 5' radius area designed to deal damage to crystalline and incorporeal creatures and to damage objects. Targeted against such a creature, [i]force blast[/i] deals 1d6 points of force damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage. Targeted nonmagical objects of crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain that are within the 5-foot radius of the point of origin are smashed into dozens of pieces by the spell. Solid objects, regardless of composition, weighing up to 10 pounds per caster level are also effected but receive a Will save to negate the effect. [b]Arcane Material Component:[/b] A chip of mica. JMHO - Hope it helps. [/QUOTE]
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