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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2804902" data-attributes="member: 5777">The class is designed, at least in theory, to apply to a lot of different types of builds..But, as a couple of examples..Starting with a psion5 and then moving into the prc:Psion 5HD: 5d4BAB: +2Saves: F: +1, R: +1, W: +4Skill points: 8*(2+int) from psion listManifestor level: 5Powers: 1st 5, 2nd 4, 3rd 2PP: 25 + 5*1/2*int bonusFeats: (level 1) Psicrystal affinity, (psion bonus 1) improved psicrystal, (level 3) improved psicrystal, (psion bonus 5) improved psicrysalSpecial: 4 personality fragment bonusesPsicrystal: 8th level psion equivalent abilities (which at this point is +1 natural armor and +1 int) Fairly basic a this point, although all feats being spent on the psicrystal is a bit rough. Now we move into the prc.Lets take it 4 levels in.Psion 5/Shattered Mind 4HD: 5d4+5d6BAB: +4Saves: F: +2, R: +2, W: +5Skill points: 8*(2+int) from psion list + 4*(6+int) from shattered mind listManifestor level: 7Powers: 1st 5, 2nd 4, 3rd 4, 4th 2PP: 46 + 7*1/2*int bonusFeats: (level 1) Psicrystal affinity, (psion bonus 1) improved psicrystal, (level 3) improved psicrystal, (psion bonus 5) improved psicrysal, (level 6) any, (level 9) anySpecial: Affinity x2 (bonus improved psicrystal feats), fragmented mind (+3 bonus to will saves with restrictions), extra psicrystal, extra fragments (new personality choices), fragmented responses (+3 bonus on reflex saves with restrictions, evasion with tougher restrictions), fragmented soul (+3 bonus on fort saves with restrictions, SR 16 with restrictions), 6 personality fragment bonuses (one of which may be from the extra fragment list)Psicrystals (2): 14th level psion equivalent abilities (extra abilities are PR 14, sight link, +2 natural armor, +2 int)Depending on what sort of build that is desired the choices for the fragments will change.Does that help? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Edit: Forgot to put up a 9th level straight psion as a comparison point. Not a direct comparison so much as a general feel of course.[sblock=Psion 9]Psion 9HD: 9d4BAB: +4Saves: F: +3, R: +3, W: +6Skill points: 12*(2+int) from psion listManifestor level: 9Powers: 1st 5, 2nd 4, 3rd 4, 4th 4, 5th 2PP: 72 + 9*1/2*int bonusFeats: (level 1) any, (psion bonus 1) any, (level 3) any, (psion bonus 5) any, (level 6) any, (level 9) any[/sblock]Do you know of a different mechanic than the poison then? I was hesitant to put a [mind effecting] descriptor on it although likely it should be there. I just wanted something that potentially effect the target in a small way, but if they failed then it could potentially hit a lot harder.. much like phantasmal killer but not quite as rough and over a longer period of time. Poison seemed like the best bet.</blockquote>

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