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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 28865" data-attributes="member: 944">Mr. Holmes IMO was a high level expert about 12th to 15th. A few levels (3 maybe) of rogue and or aristocrat could easily be justified along the way.His BAB is pretty as is noted one of the stories Holmes shot a fleeing Adnaman Islander in the back in the dark from something like 25 yards with his revolver, No mean feat...In addition to the Education feat a few people here have mentioned He also had Aleartness, Improved Unarmed Combat, Improved Trip, Improved Grapple (the hth feats represent his expertise in Baritsu a combative judo like art of the period).Also Holmes had very, very high statsSomething like16+&nbsp; str several stories mention his incredible strength18+ int 16+ wis Super aleart14+ dex16+ con16+ chaI won't do the skills here but they were high especially in Spot and Sense Motive which he used synergistically with the Science skills to make those amazing deductive leaps. Oh and don't forget disguise skillThree more possible helps.&nbsp;It may be worth while to hunt up Living death 3e victorian sourcebook at <a href="http://www.livingdeath.org/" target="_blank">http://www.livingdeath.org/</a>Also I don't currently have Song and Silence in front of me but Holmes could be given some sort of deductive power from a PRC wouldn't be out of line.And finally Dr, WatsonThe good doctor should not be underestimated! He was intellegent and competent in his own right.&nbsp;While no match for the almost super human Holmes, Dr. Watson could hold his own intelectually or physically.He was both an MD and a veteran of the Afghan war after all and a fair detective.I would say he was warrior 1-2&nbsp; expert 5-7&nbsp; or so with decent stats and skills.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ace, post: 28865, member: 944"] Mr. Holmes IMO was a high level expert about 12th to 15th. A few levels (3 maybe) of rogue and or aristocrat could easily be justified along the way. His BAB is pretty as is noted one of the stories Holmes shot a fleeing Adnaman Islander in the back in the dark from something like 25 yards with his revolver, No mean feat... In addition to the Education feat a few people here have mentioned He also had Aleartness, Improved Unarmed Combat, Improved Trip, Improved Grapple (the hth feats represent his expertise in Baritsu a combative judo like art of the period). Also Holmes had very, very high stats Something like 16+ str several stories mention his incredible strength 18+ int 16+ wis Super aleart 14+ dex 16+ con 16+ cha I won't do the skills here but they were high especially in Spot and Sense Motive which he used synergistically with the Science skills to make those amazing deductive leaps. Oh and don't forget disguise skill Three more possible helps. It may be worth while to hunt up Living death 3e victorian sourcebook at [url]http://www.livingdeath.org/[/url] Also I don't currently have Song and Silence in front of me but Holmes could be given some sort of deductive power from a PRC wouldn't be out of line. And finally Dr, Watson The good doctor should not be underestimated! He was intellegent and competent in his own right. While no match for the almost super human Holmes, Dr. Watson could hold his own intelectually or physically. He was both an MD and a veteran of the Afghan war after all and a fair detective. I would say he was warrior 1-2 expert 5-7 or so with decent stats and skills. [/QUOTE]

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