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<blockquote data-quote="epithet" data-source="post: 7512443" data-attributes="member: 6796566"><p>A few people have now told you that they perceive similarities between a shield (used to hit someone) and a flanged mace. We all (I think) agree that a shield doesn't <em>look like</em> a mace, but in the context of hitting people with things some of us consider a shield to functionally resemble a mace.</p><p></p><p>You don't see any similarity between the two, whatsoever. Fine, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. We don't agree, I understand that. What I don't understand is why you "have a problem with calling it an interpretation of the rules." Just because you don't agree with that interpretation doesn't mean is isn't an interpretation at all.</p><p></p><p>As far as your dismissal of "that realism argument," I can only assume that you have an image of a shield and an image of a mace in your mind, each based off of a real example of an item of that type, and your argument is founded on the fact that those images in your mind have little in common. You are focussed on the "realism" of those mental images, despite the fact that in terms of the rules of D&D both of these items are just abstractions, line items with certain properties associated with them. There are many types of historical shield, some of which have more in common with certain types of historical mace than they do with some other types of shield. All of these are just "shield" in the D&D rules. There's not much difference between arguing that "this real thing would do similar damage to this other real thing if you were to hit someone with it" and "this real thing doesn't look like this other real thing."</p><p></p><p>Anyway, you asked a question, and I answered it. Then, I explained my answer. If my answer didn't give you quite what you were looking for, well... that's on you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="epithet, post: 7512443, member: 6796566"] A few people have now told you that they perceive similarities between a shield (used to hit someone) and a flanged mace. We all (I think) agree that a shield doesn't [I]look like[/I] a mace, but in the context of hitting people with things some of us consider a shield to functionally resemble a mace. You don't see any similarity between the two, whatsoever. Fine, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. We don't agree, I understand that. What I don't understand is why you "have a problem with calling it an interpretation of the rules." Just because you don't agree with that interpretation doesn't mean is isn't an interpretation at all. As far as your dismissal of "that realism argument," I can only assume that you have an image of a shield and an image of a mace in your mind, each based off of a real example of an item of that type, and your argument is founded on the fact that those images in your mind have little in common. You are focussed on the "realism" of those mental images, despite the fact that in terms of the rules of D&D both of these items are just abstractions, line items with certain properties associated with them. There are many types of historical shield, some of which have more in common with certain types of historical mace than they do with some other types of shield. All of these are just "shield" in the D&D rules. There's not much difference between arguing that "this real thing would do similar damage to this other real thing if you were to hit someone with it" and "this real thing doesn't look like this other real thing." Anyway, you asked a question, and I answered it. Then, I explained my answer. If my answer didn't give you quite what you were looking for, well... that's on you. [/QUOTE]
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