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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5163666" data-attributes="member: 2011">I didn't misread your post at all, let alone on purpose. You are the one making the claim without backing it up.You said:It's not terrible. That's all I was responding to.The +3 boost is not going to happen every time. It's conditional. But, it might happen for a round or two. When it does, +5 is almost a guaranteed hit with Brash Strike, especially for a One Handed Weapon Talent Fighter (which many sword and board fighters are). So, the Fighter can have on each round using Shield Feint only:a) +0, +3 or +0, +3 or +0, +3 or +0or he can alternate it with Brash Strike:+0, +5 or +2, +0, +5 or +2The best case scenrio in four rounds for a) is +9 total and for b) is +10 total. For a), Shield Feint has to not be interrupted 3 times for the total +9. For b) Shield Feint has to not be interrupted 2 times for the total +10. The chances of the foe not being killed or moved, and the Fighter not being incapacitated is fairly slim over 4 rounds. It's very tough to get to that +9. Not quite as hard to get to the +10.So just alternating averages more damage with Brash Strike with the Combat Advantage cost. A lot more damage, no. But, it not only does slightly more damage, it also incentivizes the foe to attack the Fighter: both because Combat Challenge at +3 is nastier, and because if the Fighter gets to a round to use Brash Strike, there is the 4 AC delta. And because the Fighter is weapon and shield, the shield offsets the combat advantage.Tactics 101 dude. It's not terrible. It can be quite effective.I wouldn't suggest it for a non-human. But it is fine as part of a Human At Will repetoire.So far, you haven't posted ANYTHING which illustrates that it is "terrible". You keep saying that you don't see a reason for it, but you have yet to post why it is terrible. What really is so bad about it?You haven't even posted how it can be subpar to some other At Will option, let alone terrible.</blockquote>

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