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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5164654" data-attributes="member: 2011">The combo is not the point. It never was.That is what you apppear to be getting hung up on.Shield Feint is great for setting up an Encounter or Daily power when using an Action Point in the same round. Shield Feint is ok (but not great because it might not happen) for setting up an Encounter or Daily power the following round.Otherwise, Shield Feint is a mostly meh. It's quite often not much better than a melee basic attack because of the fluidity of combat. Anyone who has played a Sorcerer with a bonus to hit on the following attack knows that.Brash Strike is a good power all it's own. An immediate +2 to hit is awesome. It has a downside of Combat Advantage, but the smart Fighter doesn't use that downside when it makes a big difference. This is the point that renau1g tried to illustrate, but Draco does not agree with.No power is great for every circumstance.No combination of At Will powers is best for every Fighter.Any combination of At Wills MIGHT be good for a given Fighter design.It all depends.But, you have yet to illustrate how having Shield Feint plus having Brash Strike plus having a different At Will for a human sword and shield Fighter is bad.How?Can someone eek out something better? Probably. But just because they might find a slightly better combination for a given Fighter doesn't equate to this combination being bad. Sorry, but I opine that a Fighter with this combination of At Wills can be played just as well as most other Fighters and with the proper party mix, even better. The Fighter can lock down the foe and hit more often, the Ranger can go off and attack other NPCs or attack from range, and the Cleric can Astral Seal the Fighter's locked down foe until the cows come home. The PCs hardly take any damage and the foe is locked down and pounded on. The Combat Advantage from Brash Strike was a mere blip on the entire encounter.You backed up your claim with what? An opinion?Where did you show that it was terrible? Honestly, where? Where have you even showed that it was a bit subpar? The math shows it as an ok option.Cleave is better with Shield Feint? If so, how?Reaping Strike is better with Shield Feint? If so, how?Tide of Iron is better with Shield Feint? If so, how?I can theorize that Brash Strike and Shield Feint are the best two damage dealing At Will powers because they give a bonus to hit. One can be used for an immediate +2 when the foe has difficulty retaliating, the other can be used to a next round +3 for more dpr in the future. That doesn't mean what I claim is correct.One has to put some effort in to prove the claim. You haven't. Draco has, but his corner case examples leave a bit to be desired.And again, I'm not claiming that they are great together. I'm just claiming that they are ok together, just like many many many other At Will combinations.If they are indeed bad, then the people making the claim have to show the math why. Draco's claim is that since Brash Strike is best if used with an Axe, it must be terrible if not used with an Axe. That's hardly a conclusive argument.Yes, you keep saying that it's bad. But how?</blockquote>

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