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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8041716" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Not so sure on that.&nbsp; You'd have to run the numbers, but the off-hand attack for the rogue doesn't add their dex modifier to damage.&nbsp; So if you don't take a feat you're adding less than 3.5 extra damage per round (or less because shield version could use a rapier instead of short sword).&nbsp; If you take the dual weapon feat you only lose 1 AC and can dual wield rapiers.&nbsp; On the other hand, you can use your bonus action for something else if you hit with your primary.The shield master increases their chance to hit by the same amount while also being more likely to get a crit on their sneak attack.&nbsp; But they're always using their bonus action.&nbsp; On average, especially at mid-to-high levels, they're going to do more damage.Unless of course there's multi-classing going on which may be the case because rogues don't get proficiency with shields.&nbsp; Putting on a shield you aren't proficient with means disadvantage on any ability check, saving throw, or attack roll that involves Strength or Dexterity and you can't cast spells.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8041716, member: 6801845"] Not so sure on that. You'd have to run the numbers, but the off-hand attack for the rogue doesn't add their dex modifier to damage. So if you don't take a feat you're adding less than 3.5 extra damage per round (or less because shield version could use a rapier instead of short sword). If you take the dual weapon feat you only lose 1 AC and can dual wield rapiers. On the other hand, you can use your bonus action for something else if you hit with your primary. The shield master increases their chance to hit by the same amount while also being more likely to get a crit on their sneak attack. But they're always using their bonus action. On average, especially at mid-to-high levels, they're going to do more damage. Unless of course there's multi-classing going on which may be the case because rogues don't get proficiency with shields. Putting on a shield you aren't proficient with means disadvantage on any ability check, saving throw, or attack roll that involves Strength or Dexterity and you can't cast spells. [/QUOTE]

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