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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7419116" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Actually, I think you're thinking of <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?638975-Shield-master-on-twitter" target="_blank">this</a> thread. The thread we're posting in now was started in 2014 to ask about the the timing of the feat's bonus action, and was then necro'd yesterday, I presume in response to Jeremy Crawford's new tweet clarifying his position on the timing of bonus actions with regard to this particular feat. Ironically, @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6949368" target="_blank">Eric Edge</a></u></strong></em> posted Crawford's original tweet from 2015 to which he responded two days ago because it was in contradiction to another ruling he made last year about the timing of bonus actions. That ruling, which was the real change, not this tweet from two days ago, is recorded in the Sage Advice Compendium, and specifically addresses bonus action timing in terms of the Eldritch Knight's War Magic feature, which is maybe why some people, including myself, seem to have missed it. Here's the text of that ruling:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Does the “when” in the Eldritch Knight’s War Magic feature</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>mean the bonus attack comes after you cast the cantrip,</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>or can it come before?</strong> The bonus action comes after</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">the cantrip, since using your action to cast a cantrip is what</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">gives you the ability to make the weapon attack as a bonus</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">action. That said, a DM would break nothing in the system</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">by allowing an Eldritch Knight to reverse the order of the</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">cantrip and the weapon attack.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to keep doing it as I have been, which is to allow players to choose the timing of a bonus action on their turn, which, as Crawford says here, won't break the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7419116, member: 6787503"] Actually, I think you're thinking of [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?638975-Shield-master-on-twitter"]this[/URL] thread. The thread we're posting in now was started in 2014 to ask about the the timing of the feat's bonus action, and was then necro'd yesterday, I presume in response to Jeremy Crawford's new tweet clarifying his position on the timing of bonus actions with regard to this particular feat. Ironically, @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6949368"]Eric Edge[/URL][/U][/B][/I] posted Crawford's original tweet from 2015 to which he responded two days ago because it was in contradiction to another ruling he made last year about the timing of bonus actions. That ruling, which was the real change, not this tweet from two days ago, is recorded in the Sage Advice Compendium, and specifically addresses bonus action timing in terms of the Eldritch Knight's War Magic feature, which is maybe why some people, including myself, seem to have missed it. Here's the text of that ruling: [INDENT][B]Does the “when” in the Eldritch Knight’s War Magic feature mean the bonus attack comes after you cast the cantrip, or can it come before?[/B] The bonus action comes after the cantrip, since using your action to cast a cantrip is what gives you the ability to make the weapon attack as a bonus action. That said, a DM would break nothing in the system by allowing an Eldritch Knight to reverse the order of the cantrip and the weapon attack.[/INDENT] I'm going to keep doing it as I have been, which is to allow players to choose the timing of a bonus action on their turn, which, as Crawford says here, won't break the game. [/QUOTE]
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