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<blockquote data-quote="Swarmkeeper" data-source="post: 7552183" data-attributes="member: 6921763">[SECTION]If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield.[/SECTION]Do the physics of the D&amp;D fantasy universe prevent a shield shove before a sword swipe?&nbsp; Methinks no.&nbsp; If a PC is a Ranger with Extra Attack (but no Shield Master feat), the PC could shove for the first attack then slash for the second attack.The words &quot;on your turn&quot; are key to the rule snippet above.&nbsp; The PC with the feat can use their bonus action first to shove with the shield, then must follow up with an attack action during their turn.&nbsp; Or the PC can use their action to attack and follow up with a bonus action shove.&nbsp; The order does not matter and should not matter, as long as the attack action is attempted at some point &quot;on your turn&quot;.&nbsp; If the edge case occurs where a readied hold person is triggered on the initial shove, preventing the subsequent attack action, well, so what?&nbsp; The intention was to carry out the attack action, but it was thwarted and no other action could occur.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Swarmkeeper, post: 7552183, member: 6921763"] [SECTION]If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield.[/SECTION] Do the physics of the D&D fantasy universe prevent a shield shove before a sword swipe? Methinks no. If a PC is a Ranger with Extra Attack (but no Shield Master feat), the PC could shove for the first attack then slash for the second attack. The words "on your turn" are key to the rule snippet above. The PC with the feat can use their bonus action first to shove with the shield, then [I]must [/I]follow up with an attack action during their turn. Or the PC can use their action to attack and follow up with a bonus action shove. The order does not matter and should not matter, as long as the attack action is attempted at some point "on your turn". If the edge case occurs where a readied hold person is triggered on the initial shove, preventing the subsequent attack action, well, so what? The intention was to carry out the attack action, but it was thwarted and no other action could occur. [/QUOTE]

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