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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhosDaDungeonMaster" data-source="post: 7553957">I can see why you disagree, but if you rule it that way it is house-rule. RAW, the Shove special attack can only be done in two ways: as part of "Using an Attack action" as written under the Shoving A Creature (as noted before); and second as a feature of the Shield Master feat, which as has been discussed ad nauseam and also requires the use of an Attack action. Since you can ONLY take Attack actions on your turn, you cannot Shove a Creature outside of your turn, i.e. as an OA reaction.You are reading "melee attack" as "Attack action", they are two distinct, although similar, things. Again, if it doesn't make sense to follow the RAW, just change it for your game. No harm done if you want to play it that way. So you are arguing the semantics of "you can use" instead of "you must use"? Both grappling and shoving state, you can use the attack action, to indicate that by using the attack action, you have the option to invoke a special attack of grappling or shoving. Without the attack action, you are NOT attacking. Period. If you don't attack, you cannot grapple or shove. Note for both grappling and shoving, it further states:"If you’re able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them." (I don't have my book handy, so that quote is from a website, but I know, if not verbatim, it is close to the book wording.)Thus, this special attack replaces an attack taken by the Attack action.Also, under Opportunity Attack:"To make the opportunity attack, you use your reaction to make one melee attack against the provoking creature." (Again, from the website...)The OA allows you to make one melee attack. Not a "special" melee attack as written under Grappling and Shoving, which both require the Attack action, not an OA.So, one more time, you and your group can house-rule it however you want. You can ignore the exact wording RAW if you want, but you are, in fact, house-ruling these options if you ignore or misinterpret the RAW.</blockquote>

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