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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhosDaDungeonMaster" data-source="post: 7554077">I can see that, but to me the word "requires" is a clarification for any doubt as presented in the PHB. For myself, I never even considered allowing a Shove or Grapple as an OA because of reading the same rules in the PHB you have. I see his answer as confirming the intent of the special attacks.True, there are "special reactions" defined. Here his wording could be to differentiate between the special attacks of Shove and Grapple, and that OA is special in that it is specifically done on another's turn. Who knows?They aren't all treated the same, though. Some require an attack roll, some require an ability check. Also there a spells, such as Green-Flame Blade, where in the process of casting the spell you make a melee attack. That attack is part of the Cast a Spell action, not an Attack action. This is another example of specific trumps general. The entire point of specific trumps general is because often there are actions that are treated differently from the general use. Making a Shove or Grapple are examples of those. His use of the word "require" changes the idea where before in the PHB is uses the word "can".They all can be used a Readied action, but not because they are all melee attacks. Any action can be used as a Ready action. Casting a spell can be, when you hold the magic of the spell and release it upon the trigger event. Using a Dash action if an opponent closes in on you can be a Ready action so you can Dash away before being attacked. Of course, there are other examples, too. Even in the Sage Advice, he specifies that if you want to use those special attacks as a reaction, you do so as by Readying the action.The real issue isn't the Readied action, though. You interpret that they are allowable as an OA. I've shown reason why they shouldn't be according to my understanding from the PHB and with confirmation from Save Advice and Crawford's answer.Ok. I agree it is simpler and more flexible. "Correct" isn't a good word though because your interpretation is counter to the clarification offered in Sage Advice. Of course, you are also interpreting that differently, too! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> At any rate, I don't see an issue with it and for myself argued that Shield Master should be able to use his bonus action to knock an opponent prone before making attack rolls. That is counter to Crawford's ruling, and I am fine with it. To me allowing the bonus action first makes sense and is also more flexible, but I don't consider it "correct"--only different.LOL! Yeah, I am much more old school in races I allow and such.Well said. I apologize if my arguments took that bend, but in fairness you seemed to not be willing earlier to acknowledge the "official rules" supplemented by Crawford's ruling. Of course, as I said before, you are interpreting that ruling different as well... so I suppose the point is moot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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