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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 8144800" data-attributes="member: 944"><p>Please try and be a little nicer. Its the wrong armor, plate is better fitted but I wore armor all day in actual combat isn't using the military to win an argument but actual practical life or death experience with body armor in roughly the correct weight category</p><p></p><p>Understand I'm not doubting your experiences or Flamestrike's in anyway but armor is a funny thing. some can handle it long periods, some cannot. The general scientific consensus have been able to find is that good full armor increases fatigue rates twofold and slows the wearer by 10% or so.</p><p></p><p>Also D&D armor kind of assumes a high level of custom fitting which you won't see in munitions grade or off the shelf armor like Flamestrike was talking about.</p><p></p><p>Also while my experiences with armor are more limited than either of yours, many people have trouble wearing armor all the time. Helmets especially get taken off for comfort and , we see so many examples in history of people getting killed by arrows of bullets with helmets off even in ancient sources.</p><p></p><p> Anecdotal here, not evidence my SCA friends male and female often complained of armor bites in any condition where there was a ton of movement especially combat. This is because of poor fitting and materials.</p><p></p><p>Hot US states like Florida need policies where police caught with armor off on duty will be fired. Its just that uncomfortable.</p><p></p><p>Also some people wearing good armor are simply miserable, anyone who wants can search You Tube and see videos where people wearing armor in cold or hot conditions with considerable discomfort.</p><p></p><p>Still in D&D it probably doesn't matter . Any proficient PC is doughty enough to handle it and that D&D mostly doesn't bother with that kind rules anyway. Social reactions are game world driven, so yes Ravenloft, no in other games. That's all up to you.</p><p></p><p> IMO here in a more realism driven version, not an oxymoron with 5e , ,masterwork armor would be comfortable all day and others would not.</p><p></p><p>Just be aware that over use of no armor here will make armor using PC's l less balanced in a fight though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ace, post: 8144800, member: 944"] Please try and be a little nicer. Its the wrong armor, plate is better fitted but I wore armor all day in actual combat isn't using the military to win an argument but actual practical life or death experience with body armor in roughly the correct weight category Understand I'm not doubting your experiences or Flamestrike's in anyway but armor is a funny thing. some can handle it long periods, some cannot. The general scientific consensus have been able to find is that good full armor increases fatigue rates twofold and slows the wearer by 10% or so. Also D&D armor kind of assumes a high level of custom fitting which you won't see in munitions grade or off the shelf armor like Flamestrike was talking about. Also while my experiences with armor are more limited than either of yours, many people have trouble wearing armor all the time. Helmets especially get taken off for comfort and , we see so many examples in history of people getting killed by arrows of bullets with helmets off even in ancient sources. Anecdotal here, not evidence my SCA friends male and female often complained of armor bites in any condition where there was a ton of movement especially combat. This is because of poor fitting and materials. Hot US states like Florida need policies where police caught with armor off on duty will be fired. Its just that uncomfortable. Also some people wearing good armor are simply miserable, anyone who wants can search You Tube and see videos where people wearing armor in cold or hot conditions with considerable discomfort. Still in D&D it probably doesn't matter . Any proficient PC is doughty enough to handle it and that D&D mostly doesn't bother with that kind rules anyway. Social reactions are game world driven, so yes Ravenloft, no in other games. That's all up to you. IMO here in a more realism driven version, not an oxymoron with 5e , ,masterwork armor would be comfortable all day and others would not. Just be aware that over use of no armor here will make armor using PC's l less balanced in a fight though. [/QUOTE]
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