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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7411208" data-attributes="member: 17607">This is a curious amount of thought put into this one spell, but honestly, it's unnecessary.For the shield spell to work, all that is required is that the caster know whether or not an attack against him hits -- it does not require the DM to roll in the open, nor does it require the DM to state the exact attack result against the PC. (However, at my table, I generally do call out the final attack result so that the player can inform me if it hits his PC -- this works because shield, unlike other abilities, does not specify that you need to choose to use it before knowing the results of the die roll. This allows shield to be used with maximal effectiveness, which I'm OK with.)If you're at a table where data-mining of this sort is an accepted part of the game, then more power to you. Otherwise, you can't really use this line of thought as a way to try to bludgeon your DM into admitting that, because the shield spell exists, you have to be allowed to use your Cutting Words ability at maximal efficiency.--Pauper</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7411208, member: 17607"] This is a curious amount of thought put into this one spell, but honestly, it's unnecessary. For the shield spell to work, all that is required is that the caster know whether or not an attack against him hits -- it does not require the DM to roll in the open, nor does it require the DM to state the exact attack result against the PC. (However, at my table, I generally do call out the final attack result so that the player can inform me if it hits his PC -- this works because shield, unlike other abilities, does not specify that you need to choose to use it before knowing the results of the die roll. This allows shield to be used with maximal effectiveness, which I'm OK with.) If you're at a table where data-mining of this sort is an accepted part of the game, then more power to you. Otherwise, you can't really use this line of thought as a way to try to bludgeon your DM into admitting that, because the shield spell exists, you have to be allowed to use your Cutting Words ability at maximal efficiency. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]

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