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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4614513" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Hmm.</p><p></p><p>You double move when you 'take the same move action twice in a row - two walks, two runs, two shifts, two crawls".</p><p></p><p>Notice that while it says "the same move action twice", it doesn't refer to exactly the same thing that 'move action' means elsewhere - taking the "Escape a Grab" move action twice in a row is not a double move, for example. 'Move action' in this context refers explicitly to crawling, walking, running, or shifting... and so it might be that it covers a crawl, walk, run, or shift even if that movement is made in a fashion outside the normal definition of 'move action'... which isn't the definition being used here anyway.</p><p></p><p>Shifty is a minor action at-will power that lets the kobold shift one square.</p><p></p><p>So if the kobold takes a move action to shift, and uses a minor action power that allows him to shift, he isn't taking two move actions in a row, but he is making two shifts in a row.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, it depends I think on how the DM interprets the Shifty power - is it essentially a power that grants someone the ability to take the Shift action, or not? If it is, he's using the minor action in order to take an identical move action to the Shift action he took immediately prior, and it's a double move. If it isn't, he isn't, and he can't double move.</p><p></p><p>I think a stringent reading forbids the double move, but very little 'intent interpretation' needs to be applied to allow it.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4614513, member: 1656"] Hmm. You double move when you 'take the same move action twice in a row - two walks, two runs, two shifts, two crawls". Notice that while it says "the same move action twice", it doesn't refer to exactly the same thing that 'move action' means elsewhere - taking the "Escape a Grab" move action twice in a row is not a double move, for example. 'Move action' in this context refers explicitly to crawling, walking, running, or shifting... and so it might be that it covers a crawl, walk, run, or shift even if that movement is made in a fashion outside the normal definition of 'move action'... which isn't the definition being used here anyway. Shifty is a minor action at-will power that lets the kobold shift one square. So if the kobold takes a move action to shift, and uses a minor action power that allows him to shift, he isn't taking two move actions in a row, but he is making two shifts in a row. Ultimately, it depends I think on how the DM interprets the Shifty power - is it essentially a power that grants someone the ability to take the Shift action, or not? If it is, he's using the minor action in order to take an identical move action to the Shift action he took immediately prior, and it's a double move. If it isn't, he isn't, and he can't double move. I think a stringent reading forbids the double move, but very little 'intent interpretation' needs to be applied to allow it. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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