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<blockquote data-quote="Unlogic" data-source="post: 4200363" data-attributes="member: 64156"><p>Shifts are the new "5 foot step", because now there are abilities which allow you to move more than 5' without provoking an AoO.</p><p></p><p>So in the case of the Crownwing vs the Swordwing;</p><p></p><p>If the Crownwing used Flyby Attack against the Swordwing, he's not shifting, he's moving, and the one creature he attacks is not permitted to make an AoO. If there's another Swordwing adjacent to the attacked one, Swordwing #2 may make his AoO for this movement.</p><p></p><p>If the Crownwing were adjacent to the Swordwing to begin with, and attempts to shift away, then Flyby attack someone <em>else</em>, the Crownwing denies the Swordwing any AoOs because he's shifting. <em>However</em>, the Swordwing gets to make a Sudden Strike attack instead.</p><p></p><p>AoOs are always only basic attacks, so the Crownwing is actually better off just running away from the Swordwing and taking an AoO than trying to shift away; being cautious risks him taking 2d6 more damage.</p><p></p><p>To Summarize:</p><p>Shift: move action; you may move 1 square without provoking an AoO.</p><p>Flyby Attack: standard action; move 10 squares and make a basic attack at any time during that move, and the creature you made that basic attack against cannot make an AoO in reaction to movement away from him.</p><p>Sudden Strike: immediate action; make an attack at +2d6 against someone trying to get away without provoking an AoO.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully that helps with that case, at least. I'm betting, pessimistically, that the PHB and MM errata is going to be full of minor phrasing changes to help clarify any powers which have actual phrasing conflicts.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Very ninja'd...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unlogic, post: 4200363, member: 64156"] Shifts are the new "5 foot step", because now there are abilities which allow you to move more than 5' without provoking an AoO. So in the case of the Crownwing vs the Swordwing; If the Crownwing used Flyby Attack against the Swordwing, he's not shifting, he's moving, and the one creature he attacks is not permitted to make an AoO. If there's another Swordwing adjacent to the attacked one, Swordwing #2 may make his AoO for this movement. If the Crownwing were adjacent to the Swordwing to begin with, and attempts to shift away, then Flyby attack someone [I]else[/I], the Crownwing denies the Swordwing any AoOs because he's shifting. [I]However[/I], the Swordwing gets to make a Sudden Strike attack instead. AoOs are always only basic attacks, so the Crownwing is actually better off just running away from the Swordwing and taking an AoO than trying to shift away; being cautious risks him taking 2d6 more damage. To Summarize: Shift: move action; you may move 1 square without provoking an AoO. Flyby Attack: standard action; move 10 squares and make a basic attack at any time during that move, and the creature you made that basic attack against cannot make an AoO in reaction to movement away from him. Sudden Strike: immediate action; make an attack at +2d6 against someone trying to get away without provoking an AoO. Hopefully that helps with that case, at least. I'm betting, pessimistically, that the PHB and MM errata is going to be full of minor phrasing changes to help clarify any powers which have actual phrasing conflicts. EDIT: Very ninja'd... [/QUOTE]
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