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<blockquote data-quote="Planetouched" data-source="post: 627189" data-attributes="member: 7770">I've had two campain in wich we had a PC play a shifter, in both it was way overpowered. The first he played a level 18 char(it was a one-time session). Well, seeing that he had seen many fights(ever thought he could study the wanted template etc. by means of scy, summoning etc?) and he shifted into forms my nice red dragons couldn't harm him much..The other campain was a level 1-12 campain, I was PC this time. The DM allowed him to take shifter but as soon as he had it started shifting into drow and the like(That's ECL+2), and didn't change back the rest of the day. That meant he had a CR 10 character whilst all the rest was still lv. 8, a little to powerfull won't you say? Well anyway he got killed in the final battle of our army(500 men, 1 gold dragon(my cohort), 1 silver dragon(his cohort), 2 spider eaters vs. the massive army of 1500 and the evil level 17 wiz who was attacking us. We killed him, we used a special artifact for it but we did<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Anyways, I'm running my 3rd campain for 3 months now. I banned Shifter all out, together with some other things. I think it's totally broken, even if the restictions about having fought it apply. A + on you CR shouldn't be allowed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Planetouched, post: 627189, member: 7770"] I've had two campain in wich we had a PC play a shifter, in both it was way overpowered. The first he played a level 18 char(it was a one-time session). Well, seeing that he had seen many fights(ever thought he could study the wanted template etc. by means of scy, summoning etc?) and he shifted into forms my nice red dragons couldn't harm him much.. The other campain was a level 1-12 campain, I was PC this time. The DM allowed him to take shifter but as soon as he had it started shifting into drow and the like(That's ECL+2), and didn't change back the rest of the day. That meant he had a CR 10 character whilst all the rest was still lv. 8, a little to powerfull won't you say? Well anyway he got killed in the final battle of our army(500 men, 1 gold dragon(my cohort), 1 silver dragon(his cohort), 2 spider eaters vs. the massive army of 1500 and the evil level 17 wiz who was attacking us. We killed him, we used a special artifact for it but we did:) Anyways, I'm running my 3rd campain for 3 months now. I banned Shifter all out, together with some other things. I think it's totally broken, even if the restictions about having fought it apply. A + on you CR shouldn't be allowed. [/QUOTE]

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