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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4392940" data-attributes="member: 1656">Well, be careful on the Shifting front.Let's say I have Polearm Gamble, and you shift from a square two squares away into an adjacent square.&nbsp; You're entering an adjacent square, so Polearm Gamble says I get an OA.&nbsp; Let's look for a rule that says I don't.The text of Shift states &quot;If you shift out of a square adjacent to an enemy, you don’t provoke an opportunity attack.&quot;&nbsp; You're not shifting out of a square adjacent to an enemy; the square you're shifting out of is two squares away from me.&nbsp; So the Shift text doesn't preclude my Polearm Gamble OA.The text of Opportunity Attack contains a section entitled &quot;Moving Provokes&quot;:&quot;If an enemy leaves a square adjacent to you, you can make an opportunity attack against that enemy. However, you can't make one if the enemy shifts or teleports or is forced to move away by a pull, a push, or a slide.&quot;Now, the second sentence there says &quot;You can't make an OA if the enemy shifts&quot;.&nbsp; But is this sentence a rule in its own right, or is it a clarification of the first sentence: you can make an OA if the enemy leaves an adjacent square?&nbsp; If it's a clarification, then what this section tells us is &quot;You can make an OA if the enemy leaves an adjacent square, unless it's by shifting, teleporting, or forced movement&quot;.&nbsp; In this case, again, it tells us nothing about shifting in order to leave a non-adjacent square, and thus does not preclude Polearm Gamble in that situation.The only way Polearm Gamble's OA is refused is if that second sentence is unrelated to the first sentence.Now, teleportation and forced movement, there's no debate - both forms of movement state unambiguously in their own descriptions that they do not provoke an OA.&nbsp; Shift is the joker, because Shift says it does not provoke an OA when leaving a square adjacent to an enemy.As I read it, Teleport and Forced Movement will bypass Polearm Gamble's OA, but a Shift from a non-adjacent square to an adjacent square will not, because to me, the sentences under &quot;Movement Provokes&quot; in the Opportunity Attack entry read as related.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4392940, member: 1656"] Well, be careful on the Shifting front. Let's say I have Polearm Gamble, and you shift from a square two squares away into an adjacent square. You're entering an adjacent square, so Polearm Gamble says I get an OA. Let's look for a rule that says I don't. The text of Shift states "[i]If you shift out of a square adjacent to an enemy, you don’t provoke an opportunity attack.[/i]" You're not shifting out of a square adjacent to an enemy; the square you're shifting out of is two squares away from me. So the Shift text doesn't preclude my Polearm Gamble OA. The text of Opportunity Attack contains a section entitled "Moving Provokes": "[i]If an enemy leaves a square adjacent to you, you can make an opportunity attack against that enemy. However, you can't make one if the enemy shifts or teleports or is forced to move away by a pull, a push, or a slide.[/i]" Now, the second sentence there says "You can't make an OA if the enemy shifts". But is this sentence a rule in its own right, or is it a clarification of the first sentence: you can make an OA if the enemy leaves an adjacent square? If it's a clarification, then what this section tells us is "You can make an OA if the enemy leaves an adjacent square, unless it's by shifting, teleporting, or forced movement". In this case, again, it tells us nothing about shifting in order to leave a [i]non[/i]-adjacent square, and thus does not preclude Polearm Gamble in that situation. The only way Polearm Gamble's OA is refused is if that second sentence is unrelated to the first sentence. Now, teleportation and forced movement, there's no debate - both forms of movement state unambiguously in their own descriptions that they do not provoke an OA. Shift is the joker, because Shift says it does not provoke an OA [i]when leaving a square adjacent to an enemy[/i]. As I read it, Teleport and Forced Movement will bypass Polearm Gamble's OA, but a Shift from a non-adjacent square to an adjacent square will not, because to me, the sentences under "Movement Provokes" in the Opportunity Attack entry read as related. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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