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<blockquote data-quote="zoroaster100" data-source="post: 4108834" data-attributes="member: 8538">I don't see any contradiction or confusion between these two abilities.&nbsp; Shifty merely grants the Kobold the opportunity to use its minor action for the round to do a shift.&nbsp; That means it can use its move action to move, use its standard action to attack, and also get an extra square of movement in, before or after its attack.&nbsp; That is pretty useful.&nbsp; Combat Challenge allows the fighter to attack someone who tries to shift away.&nbsp; It makes no distinction as to whether the shift was done with a standard action, a move action or a minor action.&nbsp; There is nothing about a minor action that makes it &quot;faster&quot; than a move action.&nbsp; A minor action is simply more limited than a move action.&nbsp; You can always use a standard action or move action to do what you could do with a minor action.&nbsp; For most creatures, shifting requires a standard or move action.&nbsp; But for kobolds, they can get that extra bit of movement in using their minor action.I do think we might be missing some important text about Combat Challenge though.&nbsp; Someone that played at D&amp;D Experience or who was a play tester posted shortly after D&amp;D Experience a comment that I understood to mean that Combat Challenge per the PHB means you can get your attack against someone who shifts away from you IF you marked them.&nbsp; But I'm not sure if that is true, since it was just my speculation based on someone's comment, not on based on looking at the actual rule first hand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zoroaster100, post: 4108834, member: 8538"] I don't see any contradiction or confusion between these two abilities. Shifty merely grants the Kobold the opportunity to use its minor action for the round to do a shift. That means it can use its move action to move, use its standard action to attack, and also get an extra square of movement in, before or after its attack. That is pretty useful. Combat Challenge allows the fighter to attack someone who tries to shift away. It makes no distinction as to whether the shift was done with a standard action, a move action or a minor action. There is nothing about a minor action that makes it "faster" than a move action. A minor action is simply more limited than a move action. You can always use a standard action or move action to do what you could do with a minor action. For most creatures, shifting requires a standard or move action. But for kobolds, they can get that extra bit of movement in using their minor action. I do think we might be missing some important text about Combat Challenge though. Someone that played at D&D Experience or who was a play tester posted shortly after D&D Experience a comment that I understood to mean that Combat Challenge per the PHB means you can get your attack against someone who shifts away from you IF you marked them. But I'm not sure if that is true, since it was just my speculation based on someone's comment, not on based on looking at the actual rule first hand. [/QUOTE]

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