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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 285280" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Ok, fine. We'll break it down your way.</p><p></p><p>The phrase "a quarterstaff is a weapon that deals 1D6 points of damage when the character wields it" does not conflict with the D6/D6 damage in the chart or the definition of quarterstaff being a double weapon. It merely states what the damage will be, not whether or not it is a double weapon.</p><p></p><p>Ditto for the phrase "...becomes a weapon that deals 1d10 points of damage when the character wields it".</p><p></p><p>The phrase "when the character wields it" does not imply single weapon use either.</p><p></p><p>Since the phrase that you yourself broke down into its component parts is just as valid for both types of weapons (single and double) and it does not explicitly state that it changes it to a single weapon, it must not.</p><p></p><p><em>waits patiently as the ball crosses the net...</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I seem to recall having the Magic Weapon cast on a double weapon discussion a long time ago. Did the Sage rule on the side of having to cast the spell on both ends to make them both magical?</p><p></p><p>Although I understand the balance rationale for permanent magical weapons, that really doesn't apply that much to double weapons for spells since double weapons are basically shafted (3 feats vs. 2 feats for all but quarterstaff) in the first place (compared to two weapon fighting with the possible exception of the Orc Double Axe). Or, another disadvantage of double weapons, a Sundered double weapon is still sundered and totally unusable (or at least there are no rules which allow you to use it as two single weapons, although that happens in the movies).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 285280, member: 2011"] Ok, fine. We'll break it down your way. The phrase "a quarterstaff is a weapon that deals 1D6 points of damage when the character wields it" does not conflict with the D6/D6 damage in the chart or the definition of quarterstaff being a double weapon. It merely states what the damage will be, not whether or not it is a double weapon. Ditto for the phrase "...becomes a weapon that deals 1d10 points of damage when the character wields it". The phrase "when the character wields it" does not imply single weapon use either. Since the phrase that you yourself broke down into its component parts is just as valid for both types of weapons (single and double) and it does not explicitly state that it changes it to a single weapon, it must not. [i]waits patiently as the ball crosses the net...[/i] I seem to recall having the Magic Weapon cast on a double weapon discussion a long time ago. Did the Sage rule on the side of having to cast the spell on both ends to make them both magical? Although I understand the balance rationale for permanent magical weapons, that really doesn't apply that much to double weapons for spells since double weapons are basically shafted (3 feats vs. 2 feats for all but quarterstaff) in the first place (compared to two weapon fighting with the possible exception of the Orc Double Axe). Or, another disadvantage of double weapons, a Sundered double weapon is still sundered and totally unusable (or at least there are no rules which allow you to use it as two single weapons, although that happens in the movies). [/QUOTE]
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