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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9437489" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Dual Wielder feat combined with Light property allows up to 2 extra attacks using TWF (so at level 5 that is 4 attacks total). This is explicitly how the wording is RAW, stating it is an "extra attack" and it is RAI as confirmed by Jeremy Crawford that Dual Wielder gives another attack on top of the Light weapon property attack (if applicable) when the Dungeon Dudes asked him at Gen Con.</p><p></p><p>RAI you are supposed to be able to go for example with twin shortswords, one in each hand, and go 2 attacks as an action and 2 more attacks as a bonus action if you have the dual wielder feat. This is confirmed RAI and even this simple example will outrun PAM I think. PAM with a d10 weapon is doing 4 more on the attack action but 4.5+STR less on the bonus action.</p><p></p><p>RAW is more complicated since the weapons don't need to be in hand to use either the light weapon or dual wielding property, and you can take your light weapon attack separately from your duel wielding bonus action "extra attack" if you have nick on one of the light weapons. You can actually wield a shield and starting with a shield and shortsword in hand you can:</p><p></p><p>action - Shortsword</p><p>action - Shortsword</p><p>Nick - Scimitar</p><p>Bonus action - Dual Wielding attack Longsword.</p><p></p><p>Next turn starting with the longsword in hand you can go:</p><p>action - Longsword</p><p>action - Shortsword</p><p>Nick - Scimitar</p><p>Bonus action - Dual Wielding attack with Scimitar</p><p></p><p>You can do all that while wearing a shield RAW. If you grab a second fighting style through a multiclass you can put dueling damage on all of those. As an alternative, if you do not have a shield you can use versatile and 1d10 for the longsword attack. As an alternative</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9437489, member: 7030563"] Dual Wielder feat combined with Light property allows up to 2 extra attacks using TWF (so at level 5 that is 4 attacks total). This is explicitly how the wording is RAW, stating it is an "extra attack" and it is RAI as confirmed by Jeremy Crawford that Dual Wielder gives another attack on top of the Light weapon property attack (if applicable) when the Dungeon Dudes asked him at Gen Con. RAI you are supposed to be able to go for example with twin shortswords, one in each hand, and go 2 attacks as an action and 2 more attacks as a bonus action if you have the dual wielder feat. This is confirmed RAI and even this simple example will outrun PAM I think. PAM with a d10 weapon is doing 4 more on the attack action but 4.5+STR less on the bonus action. RAW is more complicated since the weapons don't need to be in hand to use either the light weapon or dual wielding property, and you can take your light weapon attack separately from your duel wielding bonus action "extra attack" if you have nick on one of the light weapons. You can actually wield a shield and starting with a shield and shortsword in hand you can: action - Shortsword action - Shortsword Nick - Scimitar Bonus action - Dual Wielding attack Longsword. Next turn starting with the longsword in hand you can go: action - Longsword action - Shortsword Nick - Scimitar Bonus action - Dual Wielding attack with Scimitar You can do all that while wearing a shield RAW. If you grab a second fighting style through a multiclass you can put dueling damage on all of those. As an alternative, if you do not have a shield you can use versatile and 1d10 for the longsword attack. As an alternative [/QUOTE]
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