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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 5320205" data-attributes="member: 149">Wasn't really a surprise, nothing we did seems to have done more than slightly annoy Mual-Tar. I mean we were hard pressed to handle just Aunty and only really managed to put him down thanks to my brainstorm. Given what we saw of it when Mual-Tar showed up, I have no idea how we could have possibly stopped it, even without having to tackle Aunty.From what Shil has told us, magical barriers like Wall of Force or Prismatic Wall would not have had any effect, he just ignores magic like it doesn't exist. He can tunnel through solid rock faster than a dragon can fly, so wall of stone or something of that ilk would have been completely pointless. Water doesn't seem like it would have been any kind of a barrier either.It's AC (45 IIRC) and it's DR meant that basically anyone other than Gareth and to a much lesser extent Korm, would be either completely negated or unable to even hit it. Six doesn't really inflict very much damage on average even if he was able to bypass it's DR. None of Luna's physical attacks would accomplish anything, since she has nothing to negate it's DR. Nameless was basically reduced to twiddling his thumbs verses it.We're now 20th going into the final battle of the campaign and quite frankly I'm still pretty dubious. The big differences this time around seem likely to be Nameless will have access to Kha'tvan'ga in it's True Form, which is going to be pretty dammed impressive. We also have access to summoning Elemental Monoliths, the Earth variety in particular are capable of inflicting enough damage to overwhelm the DR and have a sufficiently high attack so as to be able to hit without much problem, even against a buffed AC for Mual-Tar. That will at least give Luna and Nameless something to do. The Monoliths and Kha'tvan'ga True Form are sufficiently large that they can't be easily swallowed at least.Maybe Gareth, Korm and Six have picked up some new tricks they've been saving, but I haven't seen anything from them to indicate that their HTH firepower has dramatically ramped up.And it's still going to be capable of nearly one shot kills on virtually any of the characters, with it's ability to strip our protections and swallow whole + negative energy levels. Given that Gareth is 75% of our melee firepower... this isn't encouraging to me.Ultimately, it seems like it's going to come down to a question of simple brute force. We can't negotiate with it, there's nothing we can offer it that it would want and there doesn't seem to be anything in the way of tactics or tricks that would accomplish anything. It has no obvious weaknesses that I can think of other than an inability to fly, but that's not going to be relevant in the final fight. So it's basically going to come down to can we chuck enough damage it's way, before it devours us all.But as I'm sure Shil will attest, I'm enough of a pessimist that I probably should have been born russian...Jaela had told us several times that the silver flame (IIRC) had told her that she was coming to the end of her time as the Keeper of the Silver Flame.</blockquote>

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