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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3989973" data-attributes="member: 13966">Right.&nbsp; It doesn't make sense that if the spell's bonus on attack rolls applies for some reason toward striking targets with metal armor, that it would just cease to apply if you made a normal unarmed attack with it instead of a touch attack.&nbsp; The only difference between the two anyway is that a normal attack usually means hitting the opponent's armor and glancing off of it.&nbsp; The spell says nothing of the &quot;only applies with touch attacks&quot; sort.And Duskblades are broken because of their overpowered design, not because of Shocking Grasp.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; A Wizard's Shocking Grasp is just him roughly matching up with the Fighter's normal attack in accuracy and damage for 1 round, before he goes back to running for cover behind the Fighter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3989973, member: 13966"] Right. It doesn't make sense that if the spell's bonus on attack rolls applies for some reason toward striking targets with metal armor, that it would just cease to apply if you made a normal unarmed attack with it instead of a touch attack. The only difference between the two anyway is that a normal attack usually means hitting the opponent's armor and glancing off of it. The spell says nothing of the "only applies with touch attacks" sort. And Duskblades are broken because of their overpowered design, not because of Shocking Grasp. :D A Wizard's Shocking Grasp is just him roughly matching up with the Fighter's normal attack in accuracy and damage for 1 round, before he goes back to running for cover behind the Fighter. [/QUOTE]

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