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<blockquote data-quote="Charles Dunwoody" data-source="post: 8306606" data-attributes="member: 17927"><p>That makes more sense. Your belief that 7E as a whole has steered more in the general direction of pulp. Because Pulp Cthulhu is completely optional. I think that the complaint that it alters the base playstyle significantly isn't a complaint, it is a feature. Pulp Cthulhu takes place in the 30s with more action. How much action it up to the Keeper to dial in. We agree that Pulp C changes the base game. That is, in fact, what it promises to do.</p><p></p><p>I'm also not convinced Pulp has to compete against those other RPGs. It might be trying to. But it might also be trying to simply broaden the audience for CoC by getting in more action orientated players. This is certainly the case for me. I wasn't looking for a pulp RPG, I was looking for CoC. And Pulp filled an option that had been missing before.</p><p></p><p>Because SW, Fate, and Hero don't have what Pulp C has. The rich history of CoC (the adventures, the lore, the well-researched settings, the monsters, and more). Which is what drew me in at first, not the pulp.</p><p></p><p>Pulp Cthulhu is more like the gold BRP to me. Lots of dials to get the game you want. Core CoC has some options but the dials aren't as fine. I like the design approach of PC.</p><p></p><p>If I sounded defensive it is because you started arguing with my points. And I argued against your points back because I like Pulp Cthulhu (which is why I took the time to write the review). Nothing personal. Didn't you think I'd argue my side if you argued yours?</p><p></p><p>If I assumed you didn't like it it was probably because you said nothing positive about it or your experience running it. What else was I to think based on the limited info I had: you have nothing against it, ran it 2 years, you don't like the new Luck rules (uber-stat), and it isn't as good as other pulp RPGs in your opinion.</p><p></p><p>As to analyzing my review, I think I can make the case that you didn't. I don't think your posts actually reference anything directly from the review. And, in fact, we both do agree that PC changes the base game yet you are posting (your first post) as if I don't agree with that point. When I actually did make several points in the review about how PC changes the base game (specifically with new rules and a new setting).</p><p></p><p>I am glad you are passionate it about CoC. And I feel your pain if the base game is changing from what you are used to (this has happened to me with other RPGs which I also posted about). On a positive note I still believe you can run CoC as straight horror if you want. I know I have, even using 7E. You might find some players who want a bit more action. Which is both good and bad right? More action, not always what you wanted. But new enthusiastic players is a net win. And new Keepers. And people like me, spreading the word about CoC which hopefully will draw in even more players, both those interested in straight horror and those that want a bit more action. Or those, like me, who want the option for both.</p><p></p><p>Hope you are well and have a great day. Again, nothing personal here. I respect your passion for CoC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charles Dunwoody, post: 8306606, member: 17927"] That makes more sense. Your belief that 7E as a whole has steered more in the general direction of pulp. Because Pulp Cthulhu is completely optional. I think that the complaint that it alters the base playstyle significantly isn't a complaint, it is a feature. Pulp Cthulhu takes place in the 30s with more action. How much action it up to the Keeper to dial in. We agree that Pulp C changes the base game. That is, in fact, what it promises to do. I'm also not convinced Pulp has to compete against those other RPGs. It might be trying to. But it might also be trying to simply broaden the audience for CoC by getting in more action orientated players. This is certainly the case for me. I wasn't looking for a pulp RPG, I was looking for CoC. And Pulp filled an option that had been missing before. Because SW, Fate, and Hero don't have what Pulp C has. The rich history of CoC (the adventures, the lore, the well-researched settings, the monsters, and more). Which is what drew me in at first, not the pulp. Pulp Cthulhu is more like the gold BRP to me. Lots of dials to get the game you want. Core CoC has some options but the dials aren't as fine. I like the design approach of PC. If I sounded defensive it is because you started arguing with my points. And I argued against your points back because I like Pulp Cthulhu (which is why I took the time to write the review). Nothing personal. Didn't you think I'd argue my side if you argued yours? If I assumed you didn't like it it was probably because you said nothing positive about it or your experience running it. What else was I to think based on the limited info I had: you have nothing against it, ran it 2 years, you don't like the new Luck rules (uber-stat), and it isn't as good as other pulp RPGs in your opinion. As to analyzing my review, I think I can make the case that you didn't. I don't think your posts actually reference anything directly from the review. And, in fact, we both do agree that PC changes the base game yet you are posting (your first post) as if I don't agree with that point. When I actually did make several points in the review about how PC changes the base game (specifically with new rules and a new setting). I am glad you are passionate it about CoC. And I feel your pain if the base game is changing from what you are used to (this has happened to me with other RPGs which I also posted about). On a positive note I still believe you can run CoC as straight horror if you want. I know I have, even using 7E. You might find some players who want a bit more action. Which is both good and bad right? More action, not always what you wanted. But new enthusiastic players is a net win. And new Keepers. And people like me, spreading the word about CoC which hopefully will draw in even more players, both those interested in straight horror and those that want a bit more action. Or those, like me, who want the option for both. Hope you are well and have a great day. Again, nothing personal here. I respect your passion for CoC. [/QUOTE]
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