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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 9895962" data-attributes="member: 12749">Multiclassing and HybridsMulticlassing is very important for Seekers, but it isn't as vital as it used to be- many of the dead levels in the Seeker power list now have at least one good choice. Still, if you multiclass, you can significantly improve your power list with Power swap feats and you can access new Paragon Paths and feats that may strengthen your capacity to control. If you don't plan on spending feats on Novice Power and you aren't interested in another class's feats, multiclass entry feats are still worth considering.My ratings are not direct evaluations of the powers in question; they're a rough indicator of how much you stand to gain by spending a feat to swap for that power at that level (powers which you should swap for a seeker power of a higher level are noted as such).I'm not going to walk you through each good hybrid, but basically if you look at the section above and see at least one blue or sky blue encounter, utility, and daily power in at least two tiers, and the class in question has an At-Will power that provides useful control, then you're looking at a good Hybrid option. I will include a Hybrid rating for each class in this section.ClericThe Cleric is a WIS-based Leader class with a solid Controller subrole- the Cleric's debuffing is well known. Cleric powers have the implement keyword, but the holy symbol is one of the best implements available. It's slotless, and comes with some excellent enchantments. Just remember that many of the best debuff powers depend on CHA- obviously you should steer clear of those. MC Cleric does not open up any valuable feats or EDs, but check out the Messenger of Peace PP!Seeker|Cleric is decent, but suffers from losing a Seeker At-Will. Humans can use their bonus At-Will to mitigate this.  Moonbow Dedicate means you can bypass MID if you're willing to accept the shortbow's proficiency bonus.Entry FeatsInitiate of the FaithParagon PathsHammer of Moradin (if you're a dwarven hammer thrower, this is really solid stuff right here)Messenger of Peace (watch out for that unfortunate Diplomacy training prereq)DruidDruid is a Primal WIS-based Controller class, and so it offers some excellent material with which a Seeker can patch its spotty power list, especially post-HotF, which includes some really potent control powers. The problem is that they're implement powers, and totems are some of the least useful implements available. If you MC Druid, you should either be throwing an Alfsair Spear Javelin, or investing in tools like Quickdraw and Fast Hands. MC Druid has no good feats to offer, but it comes with a good PP and a decent ED.Sentinel(Druid)|Seeker is mostly to grab Magic Stones and MC Fighter for Polearm Momentum. It's feat intensive and you're stuck with Alfsair Spear, but the extra control is worth it.Entry FeatsInitiate of the Old Faith (Take Grasping Claws, Savage Rend, or Swarming Locusts)Harbinger of Nature's WrathEpic DestiniesMaster HierophantAssassinAssassin opens up options for bypassing poison immunity and getting a bonus to damage. This can be really great stuff.Seeker|Executioner, is noteworthy. It's a DEX/WIS Hybrid Talent: Spiritbond build. You get bonus damage on your RBAs, but that's immaterial: more importantly, you have a good multi-target at-will that synergizes well with the Executioner poisons you'll be taking instead of the Dailies at bad Seeker levels, like L9. You can use an Assassin encounter power, but you can just take Assassin's Strike in Heroic and get a little extra damage in Heroic with a hit with an RBA, while kicking over to one of the fantastic Paragon encounter powers that Assassin gets in Paragon.Exotic Weapon TrainingSome Seekers sacrifice the opportunity to use their MC for powerswaps and PP access for the ability to tack additional control onto every hit with a suboptimal weapon. This can be effective when done right.Entry FeatsNet TrainingBola Training(Giving up all the damage you would have dealt is actually not a good idea)FighterMC Fighter is not really a good place for powerswaps or PP/EDs, but MC Fighter is unique for the Seeker in that you use it to open up feats that will dramatically enhance your battlefield control. Spend a few minutes thinking about what Tidal Spirit Shot does when you're holding a light shield and throwing a Javelin with Polearm Momentum and Hindering Shield.Fighter|Seeker diverges from the Controller role significantly enough that it's beyond the purview of this guide, though there is a bit of synergy with Deft Hurler Style.Entry FeatsStudent of the SwordBrawling WarriorBattle AwarenessFeatsDragging FlailHindering Shield (tricky to use, but if you use a javelin you can stack this with PM)POLEARM MOMENTUM (this is why you MC'd Fighter)Wary Fighter Get bonus to two good skills and use Wis for Initiative if Str-based.InvokerHard control on par with Wizards' on a WIS-based class sounds like a fantastic opportunity to steal some great powers, and it is- set it up with Moonbow Dedicate. Thunder of Judgment & Hand of Radiance are amazing additions to Seeker’s opening move. Symbol of the Sonnlinor allows for a hammer to be used as an implement as well as an axe or pick — not a route to go if hybrid.Seeker|InvokerSuffers from MID if you don't Moonbow Dedicate, but this lets you get add some great powers to your arsenal without sacrificing a ton of feats, it comes with a fantastic multi-target at-will, and your HT is free to use as you like.Entry FeatsDivine SecretkeeperAcolyte of Divine Secrets — Hand of RadianceParagon Paths(lots of great choices)Adept of Whispers - E11 works with Screaming Bow+Resounding Thunder, potentially a close burst 4 with the AP feature, F11 interesting benefit, U12 emergency usefulAngelic Aspect - E11 works with Screaming Bow+Resounding Thunder, solid defensive values, fly speedBlightspeaker - F16 given a decent number of save ends Seeker encounter powers might be usefulFlame of Hope - yes, your Int is likely to not be great, but +2 to hit or so is +2 to hit, the E11 is a double ranged attackHammer of VengeanceStonecaller - E11 works with Screaming Bow+Resounding ThunderFeatsHeaven's ArrowInvoked DevastationReaching Invocation (Only take this if you don't want Invoked Devastation, ie because your party doesn't make room for your unfriendly AoEs)RangerThe Ranger's controller feats are tied to Hunter's Quarry, so there's nothing to offer there, but the class offers a wealth of powerswaps to DEX Seekers. PMC is not terrible (it lets you snag Clever Shot with Archery Mastery) but at that point you should just hybrid Ranger or be a half-elf. Ranger offers a few really good PPs too, which is nice and makes PMC that much less attractive.Ranger|Seeker is great No MID or juggling necessary, excellent at-will control options to make up for the missing Seeker at-will, good powers all around and good PPs, especially when you have Quarry.Entry FeatsWarrior of the WildParagon PathsAvalanche Hurler (ok ranged powers that do mostly damage, free basic attack on an AP that conflicts with Inevitable Shot, U12 that allows some golfbagging of different weapon choices for an initiative package, a defense package, and an attacking package, and then a little extra damage with all one’s attacks)Darkstrider (Blindsense is nice, the powers add control to your toolbox, and Minor Action shift means hidden isn't as hard for you as for some)Sharpshooter (Solid features though the F16 will often be less useful, good AP action, decent E11/U12/D20)RogueRogue offers some really good control powers for DEX Seekers. Dagger-throwers will especially appreciate them, and will have the freedom to use some of the very tempting melee control powers (hey what's up Knockout how you doin). This MC also offers some really powerful Stealth tools. If only there were more ranged Rattling powers.Seeker|Roguedoes the same thing as Seeker MC Rogue, but doesn't spend so many feats to powerswap. MC is usually better in this case.Entry FeatsSly Dodge (a few good Rogue tricks require Intimidate training- this way you don't waste your Background getting it)Sneak of Shadows (if you don't need Intimidate and don't want to stealth, this at least gives you some bonus damage)Twilight Adept (rating is for those who want to try to use Stealth in combat)FeatsTwo-Fisted Shooter (Great benefit, but not sky blue because you have to bend over backwards to benefit from it. You want an expanded crit range to go with it, which means dual xbows and Bow Mastery or Jagged/Melegaunt's Dagger mainhand and Master of Arms.)Deadeye Slinger (Make a Dejaja a +3 proficiency weapon and high crit — 1d8 +3 proficiency high crit weapon that doesn’t provoke or need extra actions is reasonably solid)Paragon PathsDaring Slinger (This makes slings pretty decent, and adds a little control to boot. Respectable, compared to your other options.)Cloaked Sniper (Not much control on the powers, but pretty decent Stealth/crossbow support)ShamanShamans are leaders, but they have almost as much built-in control as a Seeker. Unfortunately, MC Shaman has the same problem that MC Druid does: It offers implement powers, and totems are some of the least useful implements available. If you MC Druid, you should either be throwing an Alfsair Spear Javelin, or investing in tools like Quickdraw and Fast Hands. To make matters worse, many powers rely on the placement of your Spirit Companion, which you require a Standard action to summon. Many DMs will let you summon your SC during exploration (ie before initiative is rolled) but for those who will not, you'll require Sudden Call/Nimble Spirit early.Seeker|Shaman is best when you spend your HT on Spirit OAs, using it to complement your zone control/movement denial, crank your WIS to 18. It's actually pretty rad. Go Human or Half-Elf, and pump DEX as your secondary for Initiative. You don't need it for anything else. The only reason this isn't sky blue is that Shaman encounter powers are mostly worse for control than the Seeker's best ones.Entry FeatsSpirit Caller- Spirit Companion OAsSpirit's Wrath (hurray free CA)Spirit's FangsSpirit's Shield (WIS mod healing is not relevant for very long)Spirit's PreyWorld Speaker's Command (no damage, but none of these OA powers will be doing much damage, and this offers good action denial)FeatsSudden Call (kind of mandatory to get some powers to function)Nimble Spirit (this makes the SC much more useful as a control tool, even if the OA is still 1/enc)Spirit Mender (while you're MCing Shaman, picking up a 1/enc heal can't hurt if you have room)Paragon PathsPhrenic Master (D394) - solid E11, but the real joy is in having Twin-Souled Projection at F16 to use as a mobile targeting base. Not a great paragon path though.WizardWizards have a couple useful powerswaps, but if you have 13 INT (maybe you rolled for stats or you hate CON) you can MC to get access to Orbs with Daily powers that help you botch enemy saving throws. If there were better ways to do that, I wouldn't even mention MC Wizard.Seeker|Wizard You can go INT/WIS, use a dagger weapliment/Moonbow Dedicate/dual-wield a thrown weapon and an implement, and HT:Orb of Imposition. There's no real synergy, so just try to slot in the few decent Seeker powers in the Wizard's weakest levels.Entry FeatsLearned Spellcaster (assuming you have 13 INT for some reason)</blockquote>

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