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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 7540707" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>I leave sorting that kind of thing to the players to resolve. I’ve resolved issues like that as a player, so I know it can be done. Sometimes it becomes a (friendly/unfriendly) rivalry, sometimes it becomes synergistic.</p><p></p><p>But to me, a DM stepping into that dispute can look like favoring one player’s fun over another’s. Especially if the decisions all go one player’s way.*</p><p></p><p>In a 2Ed campaign, another player and I both decided to play warrior-priest clerics using the Player’s Option books. Our concepts were fairly different- mine was from a Nordic culture, while his was more Eastern in flavor. Think spellcasting Monk, if you will.</p><p></p><p>Both of us made a trivially similar build decision when it came to spell access though, in that we both took the option of having access to a single school of wizard spells.</p><p></p><p>His PC was a powerful spellcaster. His clerical access was pretty standard, and his wizard spells were from one of the more offensive schools, like evocation or conjuration.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, mine was more of an armored priest with some decent weapons and a host of buffing spells. I had access to more schools and spheres, but almost all of my access was limited to spells under 4th level, and but for 3 spells that did damage, all of mine were buffs, protective, etc., and one of the 3 was Blade Barrier, which I only had acces to because it was on the Abjuration list for wizards. And most of my spells were better cast on an ally than on myself.</p><p></p><p>But all he could see was that <em>my</em> PC had access to a broader array of spells while being able to use armor and edged weapons.</p><p></p><p>He bitched so much about me creating “Superman”* that I just said “OK!”, and tore the character sheet in half in his face.</p><p></p><p>There was never a repeat incident like that in the subsequent decade of play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>* one player in a particular group has effectively become the ONLY player who gets to play wizards. Not so much because of DMs per se, but because everyone acquiesces when he says he’s playing one...which is 90% of the time since I met him in the 1980s. Nobody wants a confrontation or snarky criticism down the road.</p><p></p><p>** I recreated that build for another campaign that had some player overlap with the group with the whining player. In that game’s first combat, he was one-shotted by a skeleton with a great axe. No kryptonite needed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 7540707, member: 19675"] I leave sorting that kind of thing to the players to resolve. I’ve resolved issues like that as a player, so I know it can be done. Sometimes it becomes a (friendly/unfriendly) rivalry, sometimes it becomes synergistic. But to me, a DM stepping into that dispute can look like favoring one player’s fun over another’s. Especially if the decisions all go one player’s way.* In a 2Ed campaign, another player and I both decided to play warrior-priest clerics using the Player’s Option books. Our concepts were fairly different- mine was from a Nordic culture, while his was more Eastern in flavor. Think spellcasting Monk, if you will. Both of us made a trivially similar build decision when it came to spell access though, in that we both took the option of having access to a single school of wizard spells. His PC was a powerful spellcaster. His clerical access was pretty standard, and his wizard spells were from one of the more offensive schools, like evocation or conjuration. OTOH, mine was more of an armored priest with some decent weapons and a host of buffing spells. I had access to more schools and spheres, but almost all of my access was limited to spells under 4th level, and but for 3 spells that did damage, all of mine were buffs, protective, etc., and one of the 3 was Blade Barrier, which I only had acces to because it was on the Abjuration list for wizards. And most of my spells were better cast on an ally than on myself. But all he could see was that [I]my[/I] PC had access to a broader array of spells while being able to use armor and edged weapons. He bitched so much about me creating “Superman”* that I just said “OK!”, and tore the character sheet in half in his face. There was never a repeat incident like that in the subsequent decade of play. * one player in a particular group has effectively become the ONLY player who gets to play wizards. Not so much because of DMs per se, but because everyone acquiesces when he says he’s playing one...which is 90% of the time since I met him in the 1980s. Nobody wants a confrontation or snarky criticism down the road. ** I recreated that build for another campaign that had some player overlap with the group with the whining player. In that game’s first combat, he was one-shotted by a skeleton with a great axe. No kryptonite needed. [/QUOTE]
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