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<blockquote data-quote="Dessert Nomad" data-source="post: 7543050" data-attributes="member: 6976536"><p>I would say that if a player is going to whine because another player does something like one of their abilities, then they're not someone I want at the table. The Bard's setup is still inferior (bard can only do hex once per day, while warlock can do it once per short rest, which means hex is up basically all the time), and the warlock has multiple other things that he can do (another feat or racial abilities, another spell, another cantrip) if he wants to. I would feel the same way if a ranger complained that the bard also carried a bow, a rogue complained that the same bard also uses a rapier with hex to 'steal' his sneak attack damage, or a wizard complained that someone else dared to get a familiar. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This makes it even worse. If a player is not only whiny but also demands that no one can be better than their character at something they're not even trying to be good at, then I really don't want them around. If a Warlock doesn't take agonizing blast, then he's not going to do the damage he would if he did. This is like a ranger choosing to take dual-weapon style instead of archery, then complaining that a rogue is 'stealing' his best move by using a bow. If you want to be the best at a move, then actually be the best at it, don't suck at it, then complain if someone who's not putting in much effort does it better than you. </p><p></p><p>This isn't a devil's advocate thing, a player who claims ownership of a basic spell combo or other simple game mechanic sounds to me like a player who is trying to stir up trouble, isn't very good at coming up with story for his character, and isn't very good at playing the game. I'm perfectly happy to see a game with multiple warlocks or archers or fighters or healers or whatever, and I think a player who's so insecure and/or controlling that he gets angry at the idea of anyone having similar abilities is a detriment to the table, especially if he's not even good at the ability he wants to claim ownership of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dessert Nomad, post: 7543050, member: 6976536"] I would say that if a player is going to whine because another player does something like one of their abilities, then they're not someone I want at the table. The Bard's setup is still inferior (bard can only do hex once per day, while warlock can do it once per short rest, which means hex is up basically all the time), and the warlock has multiple other things that he can do (another feat or racial abilities, another spell, another cantrip) if he wants to. I would feel the same way if a ranger complained that the bard also carried a bow, a rogue complained that the same bard also uses a rapier with hex to 'steal' his sneak attack damage, or a wizard complained that someone else dared to get a familiar. This makes it even worse. If a player is not only whiny but also demands that no one can be better than their character at something they're not even trying to be good at, then I really don't want them around. If a Warlock doesn't take agonizing blast, then he's not going to do the damage he would if he did. This is like a ranger choosing to take dual-weapon style instead of archery, then complaining that a rogue is 'stealing' his best move by using a bow. If you want to be the best at a move, then actually be the best at it, don't suck at it, then complain if someone who's not putting in much effort does it better than you. This isn't a devil's advocate thing, a player who claims ownership of a basic spell combo or other simple game mechanic sounds to me like a player who is trying to stir up trouble, isn't very good at coming up with story for his character, and isn't very good at playing the game. I'm perfectly happy to see a game with multiple warlocks or archers or fighters or healers or whatever, and I think a player who's so insecure and/or controlling that he gets angry at the idea of anyone having similar abilities is a detriment to the table, especially if he's not even good at the ability he wants to claim ownership of. [/QUOTE]
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