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Shooting into a Grapple - Penalties?
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<blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 2502328" data-attributes="member: 12966"><p>I would think so. Taking the -20 penalty that only a single creature involved in the grapple is "not grappling"; all the others still are. I fail to see any logic in giving them a benefit without having them take the penalty.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I would treat it just like <em>mirror image</em>.</p><p></p><p>(Yes, that was meant to be facetious, and no, I don't want to discuss <em>mirror image</em> yet again. See below for reference link.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is there anything that says you can't squeeze while grappling?</p><p></p><p>If not, then I'd say "go for it". Moving while grappled (but not squeezing) and sharing the same space were covered in the (somewhat) recent Rules of the Game article on grappling, but I don't think your other questions were.</p><p></p><p>Sharing the same space: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050301a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050301a</a></p><p></p><p>Moving while grappled: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050308a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050308a</a></p><p></p><p>Note that this page <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050322a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050322a</a> says that creatures with Improved Grab don't need to make opposed grapple checks to move and drag their opponents along with them.</p><p></p><p>HTH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azhrei_fje, post: 2502328, member: 12966"] I would think so. Taking the -20 penalty that only a single creature involved in the grapple is "not grappling"; all the others still are. I fail to see any logic in giving them a benefit without having them take the penalty. I would treat it just like [i]mirror image[/i]. (Yes, that was meant to be facetious, and no, I don't want to discuss [i]mirror image[/i] yet again. See below for reference link.) Is there anything that says you can't squeeze while grappling? If not, then I'd say "go for it". Moving while grappled (but not squeezing) and sharing the same space were covered in the (somewhat) recent Rules of the Game article on grappling, but I don't think your other questions were. Sharing the same space: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050301a[/url] Moving while grappled: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050308a[/url] Note that this page [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050322a[/url] says that creatures with Improved Grab don't need to make opposed grapple checks to move and drag their opponents along with them. HTH. [/QUOTE]
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