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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6583148" data-attributes="member: 6790260">The fact remains that that is a perfect example of a situation where plans are guaranteed to never succeed as written/determined, yet planning is considered essential. Your point was:Emphasis added. You specifically said that because the plan is going to get messed up, there's no need to plan. I was disputing the logic of that point. There are a huge variety of real-world situations (economic, political, military, safety...) where plans are guaranteed to "fail," but planning is considered essential, indespensible. Thus, logically, it is not appropriate to say that planning is worthless simply because "the first casualty of any war is the plan." Planning for the resources your players are probably going to spend--and when and where they could try to recoup them--is a worthwhile endeavor, and can even open new avenues of challenge. For example, in 4e you could force players to go through more than one combat without resting now and then, to remind them that even Encounter powers are not 100% reliable. In 5e, things are a bit harder because Hit Dice are variable (and can thus shaft a player who rolls poorly) and not everyone benefits the same amount (Wizards get a huge boost for 1 rest per day; Clerics and Paladins get a small but decent boost; Warlocks and Fighters get a large one; Rogues don't get a damn thing other than HD), but it's still worth considering whether the situation you provide will (in theory) press the PCs to the ragged edge or give them enough leeway to face every challenge at full strength.</blockquote>

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