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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4922925" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>This came up on another forum, and the same quote was brought up... but I'm not so sure it is implied to be the <em>only </em>way for a character to get up, just another way for them to get up (if, say, he has no healing surges.) Note the passage before that that discusses how unconscious creatures that receive no healing are restored to 1 hitpoint and become conscious after a short rest.</p><p> </p><p>Now, this is the section that deals more with unconscious enemies than PCs... but the key thing there is that it makes clear an unconscious character <em>can take</em> a short rest. And if they can do so, while it might set you to 1 hp automatically, I see no reason why the character couldn't also choose to spend surges at the end of the short rest to be at a higher total. </p><p> </p><p>The real question is whether you can take a short rest while unconscious. I see no reason why you cannot - 4E is an exception based system, so it would typically call such a thing out if that was the case, and I do not see it doing so under the 'unconscious' entry. There is evidence as mentioned above that you can be unconscious and in a short rest - and if you could not, one would equally assume you could never take an extended rest either, and thus an unconscious character would only be able to be revived by someone else applying healing. </p><p> </p><p>So... I see nothing in the rules that indicates unconscious characters cannot take a short rest, and at the end of it, spend healing surges and recover encounter powers as normal. I admit the rules aren't quite clearcut here, and don't make this claim outright - but the evidence seems to support it, and I think it is clearly against the intent of the game to have unconscious characters <em>unable to be revived</em> - even if they have tons of healing surges left - if you don't have a conscious leader able to apply Healing Words or other healing powers to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 4922925, member: 61155"] This came up on another forum, and the same quote was brought up... but I'm not so sure it is implied to be the [I]only [/I]way for a character to get up, just another way for them to get up (if, say, he has no healing surges.) Note the passage before that that discusses how unconscious creatures that receive no healing are restored to 1 hitpoint and become conscious after a short rest. Now, this is the section that deals more with unconscious enemies than PCs... but the key thing there is that it makes clear an unconscious character [I]can take[/I] a short rest. And if they can do so, while it might set you to 1 hp automatically, I see no reason why the character couldn't also choose to spend surges at the end of the short rest to be at a higher total. The real question is whether you can take a short rest while unconscious. I see no reason why you cannot - 4E is an exception based system, so it would typically call such a thing out if that was the case, and I do not see it doing so under the 'unconscious' entry. There is evidence as mentioned above that you can be unconscious and in a short rest - and if you could not, one would equally assume you could never take an extended rest either, and thus an unconscious character would only be able to be revived by someone else applying healing. So... I see nothing in the rules that indicates unconscious characters cannot take a short rest, and at the end of it, spend healing surges and recover encounter powers as normal. I admit the rules aren't quite clearcut here, and don't make this claim outright - but the evidence seems to support it, and I think it is clearly against the intent of the game to have unconscious characters [I]unable to be revived[/I] - even if they have tons of healing surges left - if you don't have a conscious leader able to apply Healing Words or other healing powers to them. [/QUOTE]
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