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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9415951" data-attributes="member: 6801776">Ultimately I think it was the better choice to do so. You need to have a wide spectrum of options for people to pick from and, well, D&D's not been good at that in the past. Human, short human, elf, human/elf was never a diverse set of options  Half orc being playable while orc wasn't has always been a Weird Look on  D&D's history. While I understand half elves have their fans, they've equally had the issue of "Okay we already have full human and elf as options already, now we're taking up more space with half elves that are just the mid-way between the two". They had their fans, but from a mechanical perspective they never offered anything new to the table. They're just a soft mid-way between the other options, and its hardly like human and elf are extremes.If I have to lose something unique for half elves and half orcs, I'd prefer them being shoved to the side every time. The beginning options should be simple things you can easily look at and go "Yeah I know that archetype", and be diverse enough from each other you can see how they fit into different archetypes. Half elves have failed at that and half orcs failed at it so hard they had assassin as their go-to which isn't necessarily what people who want to play orcs want to do.</blockquote>