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Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9416837" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Ask them. I am not speaking for someone, I am repeating what I've seen said. Every person of mixed heritage who I've seen comment on the topic said they liked half-elves and felt seen by the concept.</p><p></p><p>And every person I've seen say this system of "just pick one parent and use that heritage only" has never also said they were themselves of mixed heritage.</p><p></p><p>Maybe there are some who are happy with this rule, but I have yet to see someone say that. </p><p></p><p>I am responding to someone in this thread (not you) who has beating the drum of inclusivity for a year now non-stop, and I thought it a good time to point out their position on this topic was about as non-inclusive as you could get all being claimed to be about inclusivity. I've yet to hear a good response to that, as all the responses come down to "page count" and "complex" and suddenly none of the responses are about actual inclusivity anymore. </p><p></p><p>If there is an <strong>rules-based</strong> issue with inclusivity on the topic of race/heritage, then make the <strong>rules </strong>for mixed heritage be actually about making people of real life mixed heritage feel seen. I have never seen anyone claim it makes them feel seen to pick <strong>rules </strong>for just one parentage and ignore the other parents heritage in the <strong>rules </strong>itself, and just use role playing. </p><p></p><p>Either the rules themselves (not role playing) should reflect inclusivity, or role playing as an answer would have been sufficient for inclusivity all along in 2014. In which case, role playing as an answer would have been fine for half-orcs and half-elves if those were concepts you didn't like in your game for 2014 and they never would have been removed for 2024 in the first place because nobody would have objected to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9416837, member: 2525"] Ask them. I am not speaking for someone, I am repeating what I've seen said. Every person of mixed heritage who I've seen comment on the topic said they liked half-elves and felt seen by the concept. And every person I've seen say this system of "just pick one parent and use that heritage only" has never also said they were themselves of mixed heritage. Maybe there are some who are happy with this rule, but I have yet to see someone say that. I am responding to someone in this thread (not you) who has beating the drum of inclusivity for a year now non-stop, and I thought it a good time to point out their position on this topic was about as non-inclusive as you could get all being claimed to be about inclusivity. I've yet to hear a good response to that, as all the responses come down to "page count" and "complex" and suddenly none of the responses are about actual inclusivity anymore. If there is an [B]rules-based[/B] issue with inclusivity on the topic of race/heritage, then make the [B]rules [/B]for mixed heritage be actually about making people of real life mixed heritage feel seen. I have never seen anyone claim it makes them feel seen to pick [B]rules [/B]for just one parentage and ignore the other parents heritage in the [B]rules [/B]itself, and just use role playing. Either the rules themselves (not role playing) should reflect inclusivity, or role playing as an answer would have been sufficient for inclusivity all along in 2014. In which case, role playing as an answer would have been fine for half-orcs and half-elves if those were concepts you didn't like in your game for 2014 and they never would have been removed for 2024 in the first place because nobody would have objected to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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