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Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9464515" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>They've had 50 years to get unique lore out of "I can mix the chocolate ice cream with the mint and the vanilla" and they've never had it. This isn't community reseting things, this is "The only decent attempt at it has ever been Eberron and that barely touched half orcs at all". When the baseline is that bad and has never been challenged by the official work, its kinda ridiculous to say that the community's resetting it.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately though, the reason they're noot in the SRD and the PHD is because other races are more intesresting and easy to sell people on. That's the long and short of it. Half Elves are boring when Human and Elf already exists, but other options bring something unique to the table. Mechanics don't mean squat here, what matters is the lore, and they're always going to lose on that because the half races are just mixes of pre-existing races already in the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The orc stats were invented whole cloth to justify them being included in a new book selling you orc stats (and probably to quiet the crowd who wanted seperate orc stats). Mechanical differences are arbitary and shouldn't be justification for splitting things into wholly seperate ones.</p><p></p><p>Also, let's not forget, the original orc stats were so absurdly bad that the vast majority of people out there just let you take half orc stats and be a full orc, because nothing about the half orc stateline doesn't work for full orcs. If they were so different to each other, folks shouldn't have been able to do so. And yet, they did.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9464515, member: 6801776"] They've had 50 years to get unique lore out of "I can mix the chocolate ice cream with the mint and the vanilla" and they've never had it. This isn't community reseting things, this is "The only decent attempt at it has ever been Eberron and that barely touched half orcs at all". When the baseline is that bad and has never been challenged by the official work, its kinda ridiculous to say that the community's resetting it. Ultimately though, the reason they're noot in the SRD and the PHD is because other races are more intesresting and easy to sell people on. That's the long and short of it. Half Elves are boring when Human and Elf already exists, but other options bring something unique to the table. Mechanics don't mean squat here, what matters is the lore, and they're always going to lose on that because the half races are just mixes of pre-existing races already in the game. The orc stats were invented whole cloth to justify them being included in a new book selling you orc stats (and probably to quiet the crowd who wanted seperate orc stats). Mechanical differences are arbitary and shouldn't be justification for splitting things into wholly seperate ones. Also, let's not forget, the original orc stats were so absurdly bad that the vast majority of people out there just let you take half orc stats and be a full orc, because nothing about the half orc stateline doesn't work for full orcs. If they were so different to each other, folks shouldn't have been able to do so. And yet, they did. [/QUOTE]
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