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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Not a Decepticon" data-source="post: 9468200" data-attributes="member: 7020527">Try telling that people who screech whenever you point out World War I pararells in his work, they will tell you he 100% did not mean any symbol, metaphor and you are bad person (they'll probably throw in some slurs for leftists here) for even suggesting a single phrase in his writing could be a symbol or metaphor for anything.And tell me exactly, how is this set dressing in any way inherently better from the set dressing of "turtle"? or "small green people that pee in the milk?". Why is Hobbit inherently more relatable from Kobold or Elf from Dragonborn?You guys are defending argument the fantasy HAS TO HAVE HUMANS TO BE RELATABLE TO THE AUDIENCES. And I think nothing proves how indefensible it is than the fact you constantly run into denying Hobbits in LotR are separate race. You are so close to getting the truth and still run away last minute to pick dumbest hill to die on.So you agree? That we don't need to force humans into the story to make it relatable? That literally anything, even freaking rabbits and moles and rats and piglets and bears, can be made relatable to the audience?And yet, the whole argument I am arguing against is that it will always be inherently stupid and silly to have Kobolds or Tortles be the heroes because human audience will inherently reject them and favor human (AND ONLY HUMAN) perspective. I think you guys are just biased and refuse to let go of tradition.And, for the record, while it begun as a parody, TMNT has a long history of stories of all kinds of tone and theme. So do many long-running franchises, like Transformers or Sonic the Hedgehog. Again, this is extremely arbitrary that I'm supposed to find decades of stories that dwelt into horror, tragedy and uplifting as often, as they dwelled into comedy, inherently sillier and stupider than whatever the f is Spider-Man doing, just because he looks human. This line of thinking is what leads to humans being shoehorned into Transformers stories. And trust me, it is veeery hard to make Transformers fans like the humans, despite this assumption they should be inherently more relatable. We can relate to giant robots jsut fine, we don't need forced human perspective, arguing we do is condescending nad treating us like morons.</blockquote>

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