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Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9470679" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>Why? What is bad bout this? Why can we not have allegory? Especially if that is not the only story one can tell with those characters, merely an option if one wants to? Like for example in CR the Exandria in most part is very egalitarian species-wise, so if you want to play a half-elf and not deal with such issues that is super easy to do. In fact, in most cases half-elves, half-orcs and uniyas (elf-orcs) are shown in CR to be just a natural outcome of different species peacefully coexisting. But the fact that there exists this one elven culture with these racist values makes it <em>possible </em>to tell stories about that too, if one so chooses. Why is this mere possibility existing somehow a bad thing? </p><p></p><p>I really want a someone to explain to me how we got to the point where depicting a bad thing in fiction in order to show it is bad became problematic. Like this is some weird horseshoe stuff where supposed progressive values lead to the same outcome as regressive ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 9470679, member: 7025508"] Why? What is bad bout this? Why can we not have allegory? Especially if that is not the only story one can tell with those characters, merely an option if one wants to? Like for example in CR the Exandria in most part is very egalitarian species-wise, so if you want to play a half-elf and not deal with such issues that is super easy to do. In fact, in most cases half-elves, half-orcs and uniyas (elf-orcs) are shown in CR to be just a natural outcome of different species peacefully coexisting. But the fact that there exists this one elven culture with these racist values makes it [I]possible [/I]to tell stories about that too, if one so chooses. Why is this mere possibility existing somehow a bad thing? I really want a someone to explain to me how we got to the point where depicting a bad thing in fiction in order to show it is bad became problematic. Like this is some weird horseshoe stuff where supposed progressive values lead to the same outcome as regressive ones. [/QUOTE]
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