Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9471179" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I didn't say or imply it's just a you thing. I said the overwhelming majority seem to like them. Every single objective measure we have shows they are very popular. Top 3 species. And that that's relevant regardless of whatever /tg/ little wiki says.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Being a top 3 race that people like is reason enough to be in the PHB. Thri-Keen didn't even rank top 10. We have so many different ways we've measured popularity. Half-elf always scores very very high. Thri-keen never do.</p><p></p><p>Humans, Halfling, and Dwarves all ALSO rank very high in every objective measurement we have of popularity. They're not "hanging around" they're actually directly measured repeatedly for decades as popular by fans of this game.</p><p></p><p>Yes, being very popular is in fact a fantastic reason to include it. It's a way better reason than mechanics, given something can be very unique mechanically and yet be unpopular. Giving people what they want for their entertainment is pretty crucial to entertainment. It's kind of a primary point of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because they are extremely popular.</p><p></p><p>Even if you ask 10 times, it will be that same answer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I already responded to that. People often don't choose species based on mechanics. They choose them based on look and feel and flavor and setting elements. They don't care about the mechanics much.</p><p></p><p>And every time you mention mechanics, I will answer that same way: it's not about mechanics. The game isn't just about mechanics. It would be a much shorter book if it were just mechanics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9471179, member: 2525"] I didn't say or imply it's just a you thing. I said the overwhelming majority seem to like them. Every single objective measure we have shows they are very popular. Top 3 species. And that that's relevant regardless of whatever /tg/ little wiki says. Being a top 3 race that people like is reason enough to be in the PHB. Thri-Keen didn't even rank top 10. We have so many different ways we've measured popularity. Half-elf always scores very very high. Thri-keen never do. Humans, Halfling, and Dwarves all ALSO rank very high in every objective measurement we have of popularity. They're not "hanging around" they're actually directly measured repeatedly for decades as popular by fans of this game. Yes, being very popular is in fact a fantastic reason to include it. It's a way better reason than mechanics, given something can be very unique mechanically and yet be unpopular. Giving people what they want for their entertainment is pretty crucial to entertainment. It's kind of a primary point of it. Because they are extremely popular. Even if you ask 10 times, it will be that same answer. I already responded to that. People often don't choose species based on mechanics. They choose them based on look and feel and flavor and setting elements. They don't care about the mechanics much. And every time you mention mechanics, I will answer that same way: it's not about mechanics. The game isn't just about mechanics. It would be a much shorter book if it were just mechanics. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
Top