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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Izumi" data-source="post: 5805005" data-attributes="member: 6668759">Fighting a dragon, you might have raised your shield and took smoke  inhalation damage. The abstraction is endless. A fall from a high place  robs a lot of energy on impact, and perhaps he fell on an outcrop or  grabbed a ledge just in time.For every excuse anybody has come  up with to think hp unrealistic, you and I can devise an answer that  fits the narrative and verisimilitude within the abstraction. Now,  on to the surges. I dislike the idea that the player gets to decide  when to use that second wind as a healing surge. Triggered surges  outside the players control that make sense as second winds, during the  narrative, fit the abstraction just fine. Power/Action Point  stuff...that's what needs to go into the optional bin. In fact, there's  no reason not to give any player that pulls back from combat for 1 round  a triggered second wind hp gain if another character steps in to  protect them. Why not?</blockquote>