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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5807160" data-attributes="member: 82106">I guess I don't understand how it is wrong to have a rule where if someone is low on hit points they can't take a defensive stance and reliably draw on reserves of some sort and regain some degree of ability to fight. Since hit points are NOT all physical damage I've never seen this as terribly verisimilitude breaking.  My fighter has 30 hit points, he's down to 5, he takes a Second Wind and he's now back up to 12 hit points. Is that really a huge big deal? Sure, you COULD be at 24 hit points and take a second wind and 'be fine', but at that low level of 'damage' there's really not much reason to think the damage is one thing or another either, it could be all tiredness and loss of morale. Even if the PC is 'nicked' he's draining an HS to get those points back, so it is not as if this minor wound is entirely being ignored and it is just 'going away'.All that I see 4e doing is allowing that 0 hit points doesn't ALWAYS represent some kind of fatal wound that cannot possibly be recovered from. There's still a point that DOES represent that, negative bloodied. Thus the warlord using an Inspiring Word to get someone back up has reasonable narrative explanations. Again the character isn't just "all better now". The problem IMHO with "only a cleric can really heal you" is that once again you've created an absolute ironclad dependency on having a healbot in your party. It is an unavoidable consequence of such a system. You can replace said healbot with a bunch of potions and whatever but I think we've already covered why that doesn't really do it for some of us, we want a system where you can get by on your own internal resources, which has a lot more correspondence with the underlying source material.</blockquote>

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