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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5807832" data-attributes="member: 957">The debates will persist.  But, IMO, you are significantly off-base with the significance there.Yes, there were and are intense debates about HP.  But the thing is, these are all debates amongst people who enjoy a game that uses hit points.  So suggesting that the debates indicate a fundamental flaw in not accurate.You could find 6 different 1E groups with 6 different interpretations of HP and a wide range of house rules for making them work best for them.  And the same for 3E.  And for other editions as well.  And there are many completely different RPGs that have gladly jumped on the HP wagon.  And the reason that HP persist so strongly is that *they DO work*.  Who cares that they work differently for different people?  You can find vast arguments over who will win the Superbowl ranging from technical analysis to pure team devotion.  But the debates can get very hot.  By the logic you have presented, the inability to make those debates go away shows a fundamental flaw in football.  It doesn't work that way.Now, I'm certain that you can find some RPG fans that just hate HP period.  I know you can.  But, the goal of 5E is to bring together fans of all editions of D&D.  Someone who hates HP isn't going to be on that list.IMO the whole "going back" thing isn't very thoughtful.  Sometimes when you make a mistake, the best path forward is to retrace your steps to where the mistake was made and then start forward again from there, only in a better direction.  They can "go back" to a hugely popular system (and in this case that simply means HP as done for editions prior to 4E) or they can refuse to admit to the mistake.(And there was a rather successful Conan RPG based directly on the D20 system)</blockquote>

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