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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5808061" data-attributes="member: 82106">I look at it this way. 1) The fighter isn't 'just fine', he's now down a healing surge, one that he will inevitably lack later on. In other words that little wound is going to catch up to him sooner or later.2) There's no exact meaning for what 'at full hit points' means except that you are now in a position to fight for as long and hard as you could at any other point in time when you were at full hit points. So our doughty fighter has a minor wound. We KNOW it is a minor wound because it isn't even slightly affecting his ability to fight. Now he summons up extra reserves of energy and redoubles his efforts to WIN that fight. He's at least as dangerous now as he was before. Again, this is the measure of a hero. Go back and read the reports about people in real life who performed great acts of heroism. Again and again the same theme runs through these stories. People who absorbed incredible punishment, often so great that at the end of the fight they plain dropped dead, and they just GOT BACK UP and did it again, and again, and again. Do you think that guy with several bullets in him was less dangerous the 3rd time around than the first? I think it is at least REASONABLE to say "yes he was".It just seems to me that somehow the argument gets distorted into an argument against PCs being able to take infinite damage or suffering no consequences of damage at all. I just think that is not a fair way of looking at it. When I see people arguing an extreme version of something it gets me thinking that the argument isn't really at all one about the facts but more one of people just like things to be the way they were before. Its not a wrong argument, it is just one of preference vs any kind of logic. I'm happy to have people's preferences met, but I don't think any of us will fault each other for wanting their own to be first in line <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> hehe.</blockquote>

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