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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5808091" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>and we are talking about 5E which is defined as an attempt to reunite the D&D fan base.</p><p></p><p>I'm self-selecting by the same criteria that WotC has advertised their target market for this game. </p><p></p><p>That is a good approach.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reality doesn't have your back here.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are X number of players out there that exactly fit your description. But if X was a big enough number to keep WotC happy, then we would not be discussing 5E in 2012. </p><p></p><p>I *KNOW* WotC wants YOU as a fan of 5E. They are going to try very hard to make you and me both happy. That is a good thing. But don't overplay your hand on the popularity of 4E (and even moreso the sub niche of 4E fans who DID happily play 3E, and as 4E fans used to gleefully point out, is a big chunck). The dirty secret is that if WotC could guarantee that they would get back as big a fan base as they had for 3E but doing it would cost them every new fan 4E brought in, then they would do it. </p><p></p><p>I also certainly agree with you that there is a serious risk of continued or even further split fanbase. I'll still be impressed if they can find a way to avoid it. The 4E fan base has been very specifically catered to, at the expense of everyone else. A chunk of that fan base is not going to respond well to being just part of the crowd again.</p><p>I'm not saying we won't go on to see more or worse split fan base.</p><p></p><p>But I am saying that overrating the 4E appeal will make it WORSE.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And doing the things that CREATED the split certainly won't be the way to fix it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5808091, member: 957"] and we are talking about 5E which is defined as an attempt to reunite the D&D fan base. I'm self-selecting by the same criteria that WotC has advertised their target market for this game. That is a good approach. Reality doesn't have your back here. Yes, there are X number of players out there that exactly fit your description. But if X was a big enough number to keep WotC happy, then we would not be discussing 5E in 2012. I *KNOW* WotC wants YOU as a fan of 5E. They are going to try very hard to make you and me both happy. That is a good thing. But don't overplay your hand on the popularity of 4E (and even moreso the sub niche of 4E fans who DID happily play 3E, and as 4E fans used to gleefully point out, is a big chunck). The dirty secret is that if WotC could guarantee that they would get back as big a fan base as they had for 3E but doing it would cost them every new fan 4E brought in, then they would do it. I also certainly agree with you that there is a serious risk of continued or even further split fanbase. I'll still be impressed if they can find a way to avoid it. The 4E fan base has been very specifically catered to, at the expense of everyone else. A chunk of that fan base is not going to respond well to being just part of the crowd again. I'm not saying we won't go on to see more or worse split fan base. But I am saying that overrating the 4E appeal will make it WORSE. And doing the things that CREATED the split certainly won't be the way to fix it. [/QUOTE]
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