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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5808711" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Well, I don't know what they can have, but IMHO the days when basically a 3.x will succeed are gone and done. </p><p></p><p>5e is going to have to GENUINELY appeal to a lot of styles of play, and not in a superficial way. It isn't likely to please everyone entirely and I think you're going to find that it will of necessity incorporate the salient elements of 4e, whether you like that or not in effect. </p><p></p><p>I'm not at all sure that the designers of 5e will think quite in terms of CaS/CaW or if that is exactly the best way to look at play style differences. I suspect it will have greater emphasis on 'strategic' and 'operational' level planning than 4e does. You can certainly play 4e in a much less considered way than you generally could AD&D at least. I still maintain that the game DOES cater to that sort of play though. It just vastly deemphasizes casting as a universal go-to technique. I think it also puts a lot more emphasis on DM crafting of higher level story components and puts a lot less on designers doing that work for you. That's a two-edged sword from the standpoint of the company selling a game system though. On the one hand it can allow for a lot more freedom and ease for really creative DMs. OTOH it means you have less excuses to sell lots of fluff and an unmet demand.</p><p></p><p>Of course WotC could go back to the OGL and leave a lot of that to 3PPs. Who knows? While they say they "haven't made up their minds" on that kind of thing at this point I tend to doubt that. Modern expectations are unlikely to be met without a good number of releases of both crunch and fluff, but most of the fluff could be directed more into setting material, etc. It will certainly be a different mix than 4e had, and probably different still from previous editions as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5808711, member: 82106"] Well, I don't know what they can have, but IMHO the days when basically a 3.x will succeed are gone and done. 5e is going to have to GENUINELY appeal to a lot of styles of play, and not in a superficial way. It isn't likely to please everyone entirely and I think you're going to find that it will of necessity incorporate the salient elements of 4e, whether you like that or not in effect. I'm not at all sure that the designers of 5e will think quite in terms of CaS/CaW or if that is exactly the best way to look at play style differences. I suspect it will have greater emphasis on 'strategic' and 'operational' level planning than 4e does. You can certainly play 4e in a much less considered way than you generally could AD&D at least. I still maintain that the game DOES cater to that sort of play though. It just vastly deemphasizes casting as a universal go-to technique. I think it also puts a lot more emphasis on DM crafting of higher level story components and puts a lot less on designers doing that work for you. That's a two-edged sword from the standpoint of the company selling a game system though. On the one hand it can allow for a lot more freedom and ease for really creative DMs. OTOH it means you have less excuses to sell lots of fluff and an unmet demand. Of course WotC could go back to the OGL and leave a lot of that to 3PPs. Who knows? While they say they "haven't made up their minds" on that kind of thing at this point I tend to doubt that. Modern expectations are unlikely to be met without a good number of releases of both crunch and fluff, but most of the fluff could be directed more into setting material, etc. It will certainly be a different mix than 4e had, and probably different still from previous editions as well. [/QUOTE]
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