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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8086218" data-attributes="member: 63508">If you think about the question posed &quot;Should D&amp;D 5e have more classes?&quot;Then the option &quot;We have too many classes&quot; isn't even a viable option for 5e.Why? Because all the current 5e classes have defining class features that cannot be rolled back into subclasses and maintain balance. It's too late for 5e and you can't even do it as alternate class features. The cat's out of the bag. The iconic features aretoo big to shrink. Only 1 class has the design space to truly alter the base class with subclasses an it is the one with the most baggage and poor design (ranger).Why are hexblades and eldritch knights sublclasses but artificers and barbarians full classes? Because one set has class features that are low impact on the core concept whereas the other set has a major concepts or subsystems that cannot be contained in a subclass. Once you choose rages, half casting, infusions, and invocations, you are putting too much in an idea to have it be anything but its out class or an outside subsystem.So &quot;Should 5e have more classes?&quot; Designwise, yes but only if you think big. New classes cannot be simple tweaks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8086218, member: 63508"] [SIZE=4]If you think about the question posed "Should D&D 5e have more classes?" Then the option "We have too many classes" isn't even a viable option for [B][U]5e[/U][/B]. Why? Because all the current [B][U]5e[/U][/B] classes have defining class features that cannot be rolled back into subclasses and maintain balance. It's too late for 5e and you can't even do it as alternate class features. The cat's out of the bag. The iconic features aretoo big to shrink. Only 1 class has the design space to truly alter the base class with subclasses an it is the one with the most baggage and poor design (ranger). Why are hexblades and eldritch knights sublclasses but artificers and barbarians full classes? Because one set has class features that are low impact on the core concept whereas the other set has a major concepts or subsystems that cannot be contained in a subclass. Once you choose rages, half casting, infusions, and invocations, you are putting too much in an idea to have it be anything but its out class or an outside subsystem. So "Should [I]5e[/I] have more classes?" Designwise, [I]yes[/I] but only if you think big. New classes cannot be simple tweaks.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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