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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8087110" data-attributes="member: 63508">One thing about new classes is that the newly created classes begin to solidify their archetype and those of the classes around it.For example, the barbarian of 3e created this idea of a warrior who fights via emotion and raw power. 4e and 5e added more mysticism and primal magic to it. The barbarian developed to add berserkers, zealots, spirt worshipping warriors, and warriors touced by the element to the game.Parallel to this is the fighter of whom the barbarian was excised from. With the barbarian taken out of it, the fighter lost its mantle of the &quot;warrior of emotion, rawpower, and primal spirits&quot;. The fighter got smarter. The fighter received more style and technique.Now is Johnny the gigantic gang enforcer with no formal training a fighter or a barbarian?Well Johnny feels more like a barbarian. You could force him to be a fighter but he's better as a barbarian to display his lack of technique and reliance on anger and muscle.One thing 5e did right was fuly make each class different and not just have them be sliders of the same 4-5 subsystems like a 1990s videogame rpg.If any new classes are added, they need to be their own thing and fill a missing hole in D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8087110, member: 63508"] One thing about new classes is that the newly created classes begin to solidify their archetype and those of the classes around it. For example, the barbarian of 3e created this idea of a warrior who fights via emotion and raw power. 4e and 5e added more mysticism and primal magic to it. The barbarian developed to add berserkers, zealots, spirt worshipping warriors, and warriors touced by the element to the game. Parallel to this is the fighter of whom the barbarian was excised from. With the barbarian taken out of it, the fighter lost its mantle of the "warrior of emotion, rawpower, and primal spirits". The fighter got [B]smarter. [/B]The fighter received [B]more style and technique.[/B] Now is Johnny the gigantic gang enforcer with no formal training a fighter or a barbarian? Well Johnny feels more like a barbarian. You could force him to be a fighter but he's better as a barbarian to display his lack of technique and reliance on anger and muscle. One thing 5e did right was fuly make each class different and not just have them be sliders of the same 4-5 subsystems like a 1990s videogame rpg. If any new classes are added, they need to be their own thing and fill a missing hole in D&D. [/QUOTE]

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