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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8087349" data-attributes="member: 6701124">I wonder how close some of the things in the PF Cavalier are to coming up with a Warlord idea:&quot;Role: Cavaliers tend to marshal forces on the battlefield, using their mounted talents and challenges to control the flow of the fight. Outside of battle, cavaliers can be found advancing their cause through diplomacy and, if needed, subterfuge. The cavalier is no stranger to courtly intrigue and can hold his own in even the most delicate of social situations. &quot;Not so much the way PF actually did it, but in terms of the idea of teamwork feats (and granting them to your allies) , and decidedly not the parts about orders and being mounted.&nbsp;&nbsp; It gives a reason for someone to be controlling the battlefield without having anything that could derogitorally be called &quot;yelling people better&quot; or being portrayed as a reskinning of some cleric/bard types. Is there some trepidation on the part of WotC to re-use parts of 4e (that weren't before) that grated the older players the wrong way?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8087349, member: 6701124"] I wonder how close some of the things in the PF Cavalier are to coming up with a Warlord idea: "[B]Role[/B]: Cavaliers tend to marshal forces on the battlefield, using their mounted talents and challenges to control the flow of the fight. Outside of battle, cavaliers can be found advancing their cause through diplomacy and, if needed, subterfuge. The cavalier is no stranger to courtly intrigue and can hold his own in even the most delicate of social situations. " Not so much the way PF actually did it, but in terms of the idea of teamwork feats (and granting them to your allies) , and decidedly not the parts about orders and being mounted. It gives a reason for someone to be controlling the battlefield without having anything that could derogitorally be called "yelling people better" or being portrayed as a reskinning of some cleric/bard types. Is there some trepidation on the part of WotC to re-use parts of 4e (that weren't before) that grated the older players the wrong way? [/QUOTE]

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