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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8089070" data-attributes="member: 7015698">Well, a few of them were specifically made on the 'MC-like' model of stuff like Eldritch Knight and Divine Soul Sorcerer, so of course the Rabble Rouser could feel Rogue-esque and the Marshal feel Ranger-esque. But the core of the class is still the ability to support allies, things that the Rogue doesn't have, so you'd end up with a very front loaded subclass and a bit tonal shift. Personally, I'd rather have a ton of narrow classes and no subclass at all rather than a few wide classes with ton of subclasses. If you go too wide (like, say, Star Wars SAGA edition that had Noble, Soldier, Scoundrel and Jedi as its only classes ever) I feel like the classes lose a lot of their own identity and the fluff is just entirely carried by the subclasses, at which point... why don't we just have the subclasses each be stand alone then? I think you're right on the chipped away deal, but they could still bring in the forms by making a Barbarian subclass that transforms when Raging, but, again, not in the beastial way of the Beast Soul Barbarian. Have a handful of forms to pick from, give each a passive boost and a special action they can take, maybe an effect that triggers on the first turn or when dismissing the rage sooner? (I could see an Harvest Spirit Form that casts Goodberry when you when the rage on your own). I was working on a similar concept for a while, maybe I could revive it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8089070, member: 7015698"] Well, a few of them were specifically made on the 'MC-like' model of stuff like Eldritch Knight and Divine Soul Sorcerer, so of course the Rabble Rouser could feel Rogue-esque and the Marshal feel Ranger-esque. But the core of the class is still the ability to support allies, things that the Rogue doesn't have, so you'd end up with a very front loaded subclass and a bit tonal shift. Personally, I'd rather have a ton of narrow classes and no subclass at all rather than a few wide classes with ton of subclasses. If you go too wide (like, say, Star Wars SAGA edition that had Noble, Soldier, Scoundrel and Jedi as its only classes ever) I feel like the classes lose a lot of their own identity and the fluff is just entirely carried by the subclasses, at which point... why don't we just have the subclasses each be stand alone then? I think you're right on the chipped away deal, but they could still bring in the forms by making a Barbarian subclass that transforms when Raging, but, again, not in the beastial way of the Beast Soul Barbarian. Have a handful of forms to pick from, give each a passive boost and a special action they can take, maybe an effect that triggers on the first turn or when dismissing the rage sooner? (I could see an Harvest Spirit Form that casts Goodberry when you when the rage on your own). I was working on a similar concept for a while, maybe I could revive it? [/QUOTE]

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