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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8089890" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Respectfully, I still have to disagree. Expertise alone would make Rogues better than Fighters.But now that I think of it, if you want a loremaster and scholar, why aren't you building it around the Lore Bard??? (Sorry if that was already covered in your discussion.) Bards get any skills, one more than Fighter, and one less than Rogue but as you pointed out Rogue base skills don't reflect well for a loremaster and you'd have to rely more on the background skills. The Lore subclass actually gets 3 more skills as well, so your breath of knowledge is greater and since Bards also get expertise (albeit a bit later) they can also make out the proficiency bonus double to four skills. And of course Bards get Jack of All Trades so can add half proficiency to other skills.I mean, isn't the Lore Bard really a loremaster/scholar already? If the &quot;music&quot; thing bothers you, have it be proficiency in oratory or storytelling or some other non-instrument performance art.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8089890, member: 6987520"] Respectfully, I still have to disagree. Expertise alone would make Rogues better than Fighters. But now that I think of it, if you want a loremaster and scholar, why aren't you building it around the Lore Bard??? (Sorry if that was already covered in your discussion.) Bards get [I]any[/I] skills, one more than Fighter, and one less than Rogue but as you pointed out Rogue base skills don't reflect well for a loremaster and you'd have to rely more on the background skills. The Lore subclass actually gets 3 more skills as well, so your breath of knowledge is greater and since Bards also get expertise (albeit a bit later) they can also make out the proficiency bonus double to four skills. And of course Bards get Jack of All Trades so can add half proficiency to other skills. I mean, isn't the Lore Bard really a loremaster/scholar already? If the "music" thing bothers you, have it be proficiency in oratory or storytelling or some other non-instrument performance art. [/QUOTE]

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