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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8090573" data-attributes="member: 63508">I think too many&nbsp; make the&nbsp; magic part of the gish too generic and kill the flavor.The Ranger isn't ahalf druid. It isn't the druid'sson. The ranger onlytakes the combat buffs and plant and animal magiic from the druid and snags some divination and transmutation from the wizard. The ranger had it's own spell list since 3e. It has the spells it has to do its role based on its flavor: hunting down foes and surviving the trip.Same with the Paladin. It isn't a half cleric. The Paladin has smites. Only some clerics do. Clerics and Paldins are trained at different monasteries. Paladins don't cast form the cleric spell list. It's list focuses on defending the weak and punishing the enemy of his oath or god.So any gish would need to get flavor. Itshouldn't be just casting wizard spells. That's what EKs do, they went to wiard school for 2 classes. Gishes, duskblades, staffmasters, and swordmages would have a spell list that represent their flavor.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8090573, member: 63508"] I think too many make the magic part of the gish too generic and kill the flavor. The Ranger isn't ahalf druid. It isn't the druid'sson. The ranger onlytakes the combat buffs and plant and animal magiic from the druid and snags some divination and transmutation from the wizard. The ranger had it's own spell list since 3e. It has the spells it has to do its role based on its flavor: hunting down foes and surviving the trip. Same with the Paladin. It isn't a half cleric. The Paladin has smites. Only some clerics do. Clerics and Paldins are trained at different monasteries. Paladins don't cast form the cleric spell list. It's list focuses on defending the weak and punishing the enemy of his oath or god. So any gish would need to get flavor. Itshouldn't be just casting wizard spells. That's what EKs do, they went to wiard school for 2 classes. Gishes, duskblades, staffmasters, and swordmages would have a spell list that represent their flavor. [/QUOTE]

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