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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5687731" data-attributes="member: 1165">Speaking in terms of 4e:No longer relevant with the Character Builder. One of these days I'm going to post a long rant thread about why I hate the CB so much.In my group, I've tried to restrict to just PH1-3 stuff, DSCS and Essentials 1 (with only limited crossover between Essentials 1 and PH 1-3 stuff).For my Dark Sun group, I'm the DM. I'm the only person at the table who doesn't have a laptop and doesn't use the character builder. (I ended up downloading it anyway, because that was the only way to get players to update their sheets; they won't even post them on the campaign wiki.)Dark Sun doesn't work properly in the CB because they're using the offline version, and it doesn't contain power text, and there's other issues, yet there's a mass refusal to consider using paper instead.Apparently the CB has a filter that lets you see only stuff from a few books. In practice, players don't know how to use that filter or they ignore it. I'm always being presented with something from Dragon Magazine, Divine Power, Martial Power or whatever the first item vault was. One player played a Battlerager Vigor fighter and is still upset that I banned it (I couldn't tell it was broken until I'd seen it in play). I know at least some players are genuinely confused by this, like the person whose "cleric" took Moment of Glory.This also makes it harder for a DM to "thoroughly read" those splatbooks. There's so many available within the CB alone that, short of mass pirating 4e (which I have no intention of doing) it's impossible. And an inexperienced DM* can't keep up.*4e is three years old now. I ran about 4 or 5 sessions in 2008 when the campaign fell apart due to RP issues. I restarted in late 2010, but have only run about 1 game a month (a large rotation system). Therefore, I'm not an experienced DM, and I've literally never met another 4e DM. Alas, the game has changed drastically over three years, and the CB makes it impossible to ignore these changes that I missed <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil    :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/rant.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rant:" title="Rant    :rant:" data-shortname=":rant:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /></blockquote>

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