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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 1970360" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>I think it was in <em>Interesting Times</em>. I can't find my copy of the book, so I can't confirm it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you referring to this exchange:</p><p></p><p>Or perhaps this one:</p><p></p><p>The implication of these two scenes is that Carrot hid the gonne (primitive but effective gun) and the evidence that he was really the King of Ankh-Morpork somewhere, and he isn't about to tell anyone where. Not his superior in the watch, and not the Patrician of the city.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to split hairs about what is lying and what is simply being evasive, but in my view, Carrot avoided telling outright lies by using words such as "No-one seems to know", "I must have put it down somewhere", "I'm sure I couldn't say where." Even the answer of "No, sir" to the direct question of "No-one's found the gonne, then?" is technically truthful. No-one had found it after Carrot hid it.</p><p></p><p>It is possible to avoid giving away information when you don't want to without telling a lie, or even allowing your enemies to come to an incorrect conclusion by telling them nothing but the truth. I will admit that doing so is more difficult than telling outright, direct lies. Some may conclude that this requires paladins to be Lawful Stupid. On the other hand, I see it as a challenge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 1970360, member: 3424"] I think it was in [I]Interesting Times[/I]. I can't find my copy of the book, so I can't confirm it. Are you referring to this exchange: Or perhaps this one: The implication of these two scenes is that Carrot hid the gonne (primitive but effective gun) and the evidence that he was really the King of Ankh-Morpork somewhere, and he isn't about to tell anyone where. Not his superior in the watch, and not the Patrician of the city. I'm not going to split hairs about what is lying and what is simply being evasive, but in my view, Carrot avoided telling outright lies by using words such as "No-one seems to know", "I must have put it down somewhere", "I'm sure I couldn't say where." Even the answer of "No, sir" to the direct question of "No-one's found the gonne, then?" is technically truthful. No-one had found it after Carrot hid it. It is possible to avoid giving away information when you don't want to without telling a lie, or even allowing your enemies to come to an incorrect conclusion by telling them nothing but the truth. I will admit that doing so is more difficult than telling outright, direct lies. Some may conclude that this requires paladins to be Lawful Stupid. On the other hand, I see it as a challenge. [/QUOTE]
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